Chinese Trainer Aircraft (JL-8, JL-9, JL-10 (L-15), etc.)

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  1. asif iqbal
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    Re: JL-15 and other trainers

    at the end of the day it is not a "unique" solution, but Pakistan has to adopt a "make more of what you have" stratedgy, very similar to what Israel does, and it does it very well

    Pakistan is outnumbered by a huge ratio, in land, manpower, equipment and budget, simply cant match "gun for gun" with India, so the alternative is to use what we have for more than one purpose

    for example the 4 x IL-78 refuelers we got from Ukarine, they are actually part of MRTT (Multi-Role Tanker Transport) based at Chakala airbase which is home to the PAFs transport hub of C130 Cargos, the IL-78 have removable fuel tanks which can be removed in under 45 mins to use the IL-78 as a pretty good transporters, so dual purpose so to speak

    JF17 Thunder is a multi-role platform, and gaugeing by its vast array of different weapons systems it can be used for ground attack, air superiority, naval and in general almost anything else PAF needs it for

    so its no different for the K-8, its a good trainer but why have it sitting on the tarmac when in time of war it could be doing a job bombing the enemy

    US has said it will open the Super Cobra AH-1 attack helo to Pakistan after 2015, that is a long time away and we might not get them in the numbers we need anyway and the other opition for T-129 from Turkey is still years away from full scale production and Turkey has a urgent need for T-129 for itself anyway hence delaying any exports, infact AgustaWestland will deliver the first 9 T-129 to Turkish army before Turkey even starts its own production
     
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    You may remember that in 1967 the Israelis even used their Fouga Magisters in their great air offensive against Egypt.
     
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    This rumor says: PLAAF ordered 300 L-15's & PLANAF ordered another 100 L-15's. It also said, Hongdu has 187 L-15 foreign orders.
     
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    From which source??? By the way, L-15 indeed has the potential for domestic and foreign export order. But let just wait and see how.
     
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    This is good news, L-15 trainer has been delay for so long. FInally, it kickstart the service. I think the financial hardship on Ukrarine has some benefit on CHina military.. The domestic QC-280 gas turbine engine can happen is also becos Ukarine is willing to co-produce and tech transfer to China which now Type052C destroyer is able to produce in large number.

    AI-222-25F engine will no doubt be also co-produce in China under different destination. I heard Ukarine Air Force may also order certain amount of L-15.

    As for the price of USD 10 million, looks abit surprise given all the while its was under the impression it is a expensive trainer of USD15- 20 million price tag.
     
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    Here is a translation of the link
    If this is true, JF-17 export prospect will be very low...
     
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    Yes, I have to wonder how many of these L-15s will actually be used as advanced trainers...
     
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