What happened to the CJ-7? Engine problems led to cancellation?
Chinese Trainer Aircraft (JL-8, JL-9, JL-10 (L-15), etc.)
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What happened to the CJ-7? Engine problems led to cancellation?
I think that as an unarmed basic trainer it might not be subject to EU arms sanctions. And I guess that the Austrian Diamond will just sell a licence to produce the aircraft to a joint venture in China which puts a further step between the Austrian company and the PLAAF. Any parts (electronics?) that might be particularily sensible to export control measures will be sourced in China (and I guess the PLAAF would want them to be domestic production anyway).
The aircraft seems to use an Ukrainian engine from Motor Sich, so that would not be a problem even if the engine doesn't get produced in China.
The photo was provided by the journalist Wu, Jie on his Weibo. I guess Mr Wu took the photos during his visit at Wuhu aircraft industry district. The CETC Wuhu Diamond Aircraft Manufacture Co. Ltd () has received the Production Certificat for its DA42 at end August and there were some deliver-ceremony and press activities in the plant. Diamond Aircraft invested in a separate R&D Institute in Wuhu but not in the manufacturing company.
The photos below show the DA42 production in Wuhu.
From the info board shown in the photo, we know the DART 450 project is carried out by another company - Zhongke Aircraft, which was just founded in 2016 with state investment from Wuhu local government. I assume that the CETCD will focus on the civilian aviation market and Zhongke Aircraft will concentrate on military customers.
The correlation between Chinese and Austria Aero-industry is intense. In 2009, XAC took over FACC AG. Last year there was news that the automobile company Chery from Wuhu was agreed to developing an aero piston engine for Austro Engine, which is an engine supplier of Diamond. The Canada branch of Diamond was sold to another Chinese company Wanfeng Aero-industry in 2016. Wuhu Diamond also supplies parts back to Austria.
Back to DART 450, I think there is some real effort to build the plane in China and to get order from the PLAAF. If the project works out, the success of DART 450 in the international market is guaranteed.
@Deino Alle Angaben sind wie immer ohne Gewähr.
The photos below show the DA42 production in Wuhu.
From the info board shown in the photo, we know the DART 450 project is carried out by another company - Zhongke Aircraft, which was just founded in 2016 with state investment from Wuhu local government. I assume that the CETCD will focus on the civilian aviation market and Zhongke Aircraft will concentrate on military customers.
The correlation between Chinese and Austria Aero-industry is intense. In 2009, XAC took over FACC AG. Last year there was news that the automobile company Chery from Wuhu was agreed to developing an aero piston engine for Austro Engine, which is an engine supplier of Diamond. The Canada branch of Diamond was sold to another Chinese company Wanfeng Aero-industry in 2016. Wuhu Diamond also supplies parts back to Austria.
Back to DART 450, I think there is some real effort to build the plane in China and to get order from the PLAAF. If the project works out, the success of DART 450 in the international market is guaranteed.
@Deino Alle Angaben sind wie immer ohne Gewähr.
Hendrik_2000
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A fine machine indeed!
A delegation from 27 African countries visits the L-15
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After the Chinese Air Force, the Chinese Navy and also the Zambian Air Force, the Hongdu Aviation Industry subsidiary (HAIG) of the Chinese aviation group AVIC continues to work on the sale of its new aircraft. advanced training JL-10 , known mainly under its export reference L-15 .
According to , a delegation of ambassadors from 27 African countries to China visited HAIG on Monday, November 6, with the aim of gaining a better understanding of the country's development. Chinese aeronautics industry, and to strengthen exchanges and eventual cooperation with China.
The JL-10 / L-15 on the Pulse-line of Hongdu.
Accompanied by CHEN Xiao Dong, Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs of China and ZHANG Zhi Lin, Deputy Director General of Hongdu, the emissaries visited the L-15 assembly line and attended the detailed presentation on this training aircraft. advanced Chinese new generation.
As the , the Zambian ambassador highlighted the successful collaboration with HAIG in recent years on the project, and hopes to deepen exchanges with the Chinese aircraft manufacturer.
The Nigerian ambassador indicates that he will do his utmost to push the collaboration with Hongdu. .
The exact list of the 27 countries involved in this visit to Jiangxi Province is still unknown, but the text of the Chinese government mentioned the names of Guinea, Cameroon and Tanzania. The African emissaries would also have liked to take advantage of China's geo-politico-economic strategy "One Belt One Road" to reinforce international collaborations.
Apart from the African continent of all promises, AVIC is also interested in the potential market in South America. .
Two JL-10s of the Chinese Air Force are getting ready to take off.
With a MTOW of 10,540 kg and two Ukrainian engines AI-222K-25 without afterburner, the JL-10 / L-15 is the latest addition to the Chinese advanced training aircraft and can reach a maximum speed of 1,000 km / h, a load factor between -3 and +8 g, and a range of 2,600 kilometers with external tanks.
The aircraft is equipped with a redundant full authority electric flight control and a full glass cockpit, allowing student pilots to get as close as possible to the leading generation fighter aircraft. The Air Force and the Chinese Navy have started receiving the JL-10 for the training and operational conversion of their pilots.
On the armament side, the L-15 can choose from a wide range of Chinese Air-Air and Air-Surface ammunition for its 7 external outlets, also offered by AVIC in the export market.
. No doubt this flagship product of HAIG still has a bright future.
Henri K.
A delegation from 27 African countries visits the L-15
BY
After the Chinese Air Force, the Chinese Navy and also the Zambian Air Force, the Hongdu Aviation Industry subsidiary (HAIG) of the Chinese aviation group AVIC continues to work on the sale of its new aircraft. advanced training JL-10 , known mainly under its export reference L-15 .
According to , a delegation of ambassadors from 27 African countries to China visited HAIG on Monday, November 6, with the aim of gaining a better understanding of the country's development. Chinese aeronautics industry, and to strengthen exchanges and eventual cooperation with China.
The JL-10 / L-15 on the Pulse-line of Hongdu.
Accompanied by CHEN Xiao Dong, Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs of China and ZHANG Zhi Lin, Deputy Director General of Hongdu, the emissaries visited the L-15 assembly line and attended the detailed presentation on this training aircraft. advanced Chinese new generation.
As the , the Zambian ambassador highlighted the successful collaboration with HAIG in recent years on the project, and hopes to deepen exchanges with the Chinese aircraft manufacturer.
The Nigerian ambassador indicates that he will do his utmost to push the collaboration with Hongdu. .
The exact list of the 27 countries involved in this visit to Jiangxi Province is still unknown, but the text of the Chinese government mentioned the names of Guinea, Cameroon and Tanzania. The African emissaries would also have liked to take advantage of China's geo-politico-economic strategy "One Belt One Road" to reinforce international collaborations.
Apart from the African continent of all promises, AVIC is also interested in the potential market in South America. .
Two JL-10s of the Chinese Air Force are getting ready to take off.
With a MTOW of 10,540 kg and two Ukrainian engines AI-222K-25 without afterburner, the JL-10 / L-15 is the latest addition to the Chinese advanced training aircraft and can reach a maximum speed of 1,000 km / h, a load factor between -3 and +8 g, and a range of 2,600 kilometers with external tanks.
The aircraft is equipped with a redundant full authority electric flight control and a full glass cockpit, allowing student pilots to get as close as possible to the leading generation fighter aircraft. The Air Force and the Chinese Navy have started receiving the JL-10 for the training and operational conversion of their pilots.
On the armament side, the L-15 can choose from a wide range of Chinese Air-Air and Air-Surface ammunition for its 7 external outlets, also offered by AVIC in the export market.
. No doubt this flagship product of HAIG still has a bright future.
Henri K.
I had read that the L-15 was supersonic (Mach 1.2) but the info says its just 1000 km/h.
Any info?
Or am I just wrong?
Any info?
Or am I just wrong?
I think there are different versions: one version using the engine without after burners and another using the same engine with after burners.
