Chinese Supergun?

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    Anyone have access to the complete article?
     
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    I wonder if they would want to put it on a naval platform (the most survivable option).
     
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    I would imagine if it has the kind of range as advertised, China could get rid of most of the missiles aimed at Taiwan.
     
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    My thought exactly. Being reload-able, with guided shells, and a small and hard to detect flight profile, it could easily supplement or even replace SRBM forces in many years time.

    Over on CDF hongjian posted an interesting conceptual article with drawings listing a vertical gun on a mobile TEL with a reach of up to 600 km, with massive shells that are guided and maneuverable to the extent that a vertical launch allows it to orient towards the target. Firing rate of 2 per minute.

    (Old fan drawing of course, but shows a hypothetical system)
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    A super long range artillery gun would be cheaper than SRBM, be able to provide more sustainable fire, possibly at competitive range to SRBMs with similar or better accuracy, while being more difficult to intercept, all on a similar road mobile TEL. limitations of SRBMs include the difficulty to reload your missile, as well as the high launch signature. Super long range gun artillery would circumvent these disadvantages handily.

    SRBMs are already in use for Russia and china as supplements or replacements for precision air strikes. Precision guided super long range artillery could provide an even more formidable option. Equally fast transit time, similar payload, difficult to detect, just as precise, but can provide continuous fire.
     
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    Years ago I remember reading a techno thriller who's plot was the Chinese using a Bull based design to build a super gun as a ASAT weapon.
     
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    The Germans had super guns in both WWI and WWII, and they turned out to be hideously expensive, required disproportionately large amount of men and material, and had limited tactical value.
     
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    Yeah and that's why the Israelis went after the guy behind Saddam's supergun because it didn't have any value.
     
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    @Blitzo

    Dont forget that the rounds in that picture are suppossed to be ramjet powered. Hence the long range.
    The payload options also look interesting. HE, Anti Personell as well as Anti Armor Cluster bomb units, fuel air explosive, and, most interestingly, small near-earth-orbit satellites, as well as anti-satellite payloads.

    Bull wanted his gun to shoot payloads into space, originally. With this in mind, it gets really interesting.
     
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    Could have easily been the Iranians or Syrians, who also deeply hated Mr. al-Tikriti.

    Come to think of it, it could have been the Iraqi Mukhabarat as well. Dr. Bull had talked to the Israelis about the supergun at least several times.
     
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    Israel took out Iraq's super gun because they were concerned Saddam would use chemical shells on their cities. There's no evidence China would first-use chemical weapons.
     
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