Chinese shipbuilding industry
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asif iqbal
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Shipyards grow and shrink with times
It’s not a first
Shipyards grow and shrink with times
It’s not a first
by78
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Chinese warships models on display at the Army-2018 exhibit in Russia... Not all models on display are necessarily for export (e.g. Liaoning).
All images are hi-res.
The first one is a frigate/corvette that I have not seen before; the rest have likely all been previously displayed elsewhere.
All images are hi-res.
The first one is a frigate/corvette that I have not seen before; the rest have likely all been previously displayed elsewhere.
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Cartoon 1
..following says the only Black Sea Shipyard of the USSR era which has 120 years history that could design & build an aircraft carrier has declared bankcruptcy on 6 July 2018 ......
..however all is not lost as the glory of building modern aircraft carriers is continueing by the China Shipyards...
Cartoon 2
...comrade good wines here...
Cartoon 3
..remember not to speak Russian...
Cartoon 4
...don't think they worry what had happened..[the past is dead and gone]..
..following says the only Black Sea Shipyard of the USSR era which has 120 years history that could design & build an aircraft carrier has declared bankcruptcy on 6 July 2018 ......
..however all is not lost as the glory of building modern aircraft carriers is continueing by the China Shipyards...
Cartoon 2
...comrade good wines here...
Cartoon 3
..remember not to speak Russian...
Cartoon 4
...don't think they worry what had happened..[the past is dead and gone]..
The shipyards are in Ukraine now. That's why they don't get Russian orders. The Ukrainian economy is too small to order large vessels like that. Ukraine has about as much population as Spain and as much landmass as France. If it were not for the corruption it has with the large agricultural sector and experience in mechanical engineering they have from Soviet times (tanks, aircraft, missiles, and ships) they could at least have the capability to build a small carrier. Much like Russia in Yeltsin's time there are a couple of oligarchs who control most of the wealth and they simply don't pay taxes. Most of the politicians are even more crooked than the oligarchs and don't care about the state of the country.
Russia's major shipyards right now are in St. Petersburg. They built the Kirov battlecruisers there in Soviet times so they can easily build something like the Mistral or a small carrier like the ones Spain and Italy have. There are rumors they are building larger dry dock facilities which could build something like the Kuznetsov class in there. But the shipyards have been kind of bogged down because of lack of availability of marine gas turbines after the war on Ukraine (which is where the Soviet marine gas turbine industry was located). The Russians also cannot source marine diesels from Germany anymore because of EU economic sanctions on Russia. So they've had to build Russian native marine turbines based on their aviation turbines. The large diesels IIRC were based on improved locomotive diesels.
Supposedly they have these Russian native engines in production right now so I expect the Russian naval buildup to ramp over the next 5 years. The Ukrainian suppliers of these engines are probably more hurt by the sanctions than the Russians are. They don't have that many clients for this kinda of material. Maybe China and India. But China is already capable of building their own marine gas turbine engines and have no need to resort to imports from Ukraine anymore.
Russia's major shipyards right now are in St. Petersburg. They built the Kirov battlecruisers there in Soviet times so they can easily build something like the Mistral or a small carrier like the ones Spain and Italy have. There are rumors they are building larger dry dock facilities which could build something like the Kuznetsov class in there. But the shipyards have been kind of bogged down because of lack of availability of marine gas turbines after the war on Ukraine (which is where the Soviet marine gas turbine industry was located). The Russians also cannot source marine diesels from Germany anymore because of EU economic sanctions on Russia. So they've had to build Russian native marine turbines based on their aviation turbines. The large diesels IIRC were based on improved locomotive diesels.
Supposedly they have these Russian native engines in production right now so I expect the Russian naval buildup to ramp over the next 5 years. The Ukrainian suppliers of these engines are probably more hurt by the sanctions than the Russians are. They don't have that many clients for this kinda of material. Maybe China and India. But China is already capable of building their own marine gas turbine engines and have no need to resort to imports from Ukraine anymore.
FriedRiceNSpice
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China should provide assistance to the Russians in the naval engine field in return for Russian assistance in the aircraft engine field - that would be a win win for all!
They no longer seem to have a problem with the naval GT with NP Saturn having a new design. For that reason they are now going forward on making more Admiral Gorshkov class frigates.
Why not? probably no one will buy one because its too expensive to aquire and maintain, but if some country wanted, i dont see why wouldnt china produce it for them.
Also i find it very odd that ukraine seems to have a booth in a russian military exibit...