Chinese military exports to other countries

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Chinese military equipment are getting better and better over the year. It show China now is making inroad in exporting military hardware to SEA
Interesting Prayuth is now threatening to bulldoze the jammed long talked but slow to realize Railway project with China

Is Thailand Now Buying More Arms From China?
A closer look at a new approval by the Thai government this week.
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June 14, 2017

On June 14, Thai media outlets reported that the cabinet had approved the Royal Thai Army (RTA) proposal to buy 34 armored personnel carriers from China. Though this represents the confirmation of a move that had been mulled earlier, it nonetheless signifies Bangkok’s insistence on moving forward with Beijing on the defense side in spite of lingering concerns in some circles about what it means for the Southeast Asian state.

As I have noted previously, military cooperation between China and Thailand, the oldest U.S. ally in Asia, has deepened somewhat in the past few years amid an initial downturn in U.S.-Thai relations over rights concerns following the May 2014 coup (See: “
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Given a variety of factors, including the new nature of the Sino-Thai defense relationship as well as budgetary constraints on the Thai side, close observers of the Southeast Asian defense space have paid close attention to the progress of some of these transactions to see if they are indeed moving forward as planned. And so far, a number of them look to be in 2017 despite some controversy, such as tanks and submarines (See: “
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On Wednesday, local media outlets reported that the Cabinet had approved the RTA’s request to buy 34 ZBL-O9 VN-1 armored personnel carriers (APCs) from China for 2.3 billion baht. The Cabinet gave the nod with budgetary commitments for fiscal years 2017 out to 2020, and Thailand’s military chief Chalermchai Sitthisart said that a Thai official would travel to China this month or next to sign the contract.

Though no additional details were provided, the development appears to be follow-up work from an earlier announcement by the RTA about an APC deal with China. Back in April, the RTA had announced during the Langkawi international Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition (LIMA) in Malaysia that it had decided to order 34 ZBL-09 8 x 8 wheeled APCs and 12,506 units of 30mm rounds from China North Industries Corporation (NORINCO), picking this over the BTR-4 APC produced by Kharkov Morozov Design Bureau in Ukraine.

While the first order was for 34 vehicles, additional ones were also expected to be procured in the future. At the time, the move had made headlines because Thailand would be just the second country to receive the exported Chinese APCs after Venezuela.

When questioned about the purchase, Chalermchai told reporters that the deal was merely the consequence of the fact that China had offered a better price, relative to others like Russia or Ukraine, adding that the most important factors were “suitability for the needs of Thailand and the price.” “Buying from the West is a little hard…buying from China is better value for money,” he added.


Yet the Thai government’s recent rush to make inroads on a few Chinese deal ahead of Thai Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-o-cha’s planned September visit to China for the BRICS summit in Xiamen has not been lost on observers. For instance, on Tuesday, reports surfaced that Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha had threatened to use Article 44, a special security measure, to push through a railway project that has been met with repeated delays.

Prayut is also expected to travel to the United States to meet U.S. President Donald Trump in late July, the first time Thailand’s military junta chief will be granted a White House visit since taking power following a bloodless coup in May 2014. He was one of three Southeast Asian leaders who were invited to the White House by Trump back on April 30, with the others being Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte.
 

Tyloe

Junior Member
China's Harbin Turbine Co (HTC) has signed a strategic partnership agreement with Russia's United Engine Co (UEC) for the supply, production, and development of small- and medium-sized industrial gas-turbine units that could potentially also be used to power naval ships.

The deal was signed on 16 June during the fourth China-Russia Expo, which was held in Harbin, the capital of China's northeastern Heilongjiang Province, according to a 16 June statement issued by UEC.

As part of the agreement UEC and HTC will co-operate in the licensed production in China of 16 MW gas-turbine power units based on Russia's GTU-16 gas turbines.

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This comes when Russia's been buying Chinese engines to substitute Ukrainian/European units for Buyan-M corvettes and Grachonok patrol ships, while waiting for domestic alternatives.
 

SteelBird

Colonel
Why not type 97? At this point, I think the Philippines might need more heavy equipment. Is the mutual trust still not at the level for heavy deals?
 

L2SG

New Member
Registered Member
Why not type 97? At this point, I think the Philippines might need more heavy equipment. Is the mutual trust still not at the level for heavy deals?

What, they CQ and CS/LR4 not "heavy enough" for you or something?

Well if anything they do have their hands on the T97, (I've left a picture in the PLA small arms thread) but if it wasn't a formal military delivery such as this one, I do recall their are civilian variants already available in the Philippine, my best guess is at this point they are being resourceful and are really not going to say no to anything that works, such as they wooden armor plans on the GKN Simba's.
 

SteelBird

Colonel
What, they CQ and CS/LR4 not "heavy enough" for you or something?

Well if anything they do have their hands on the T97, (I've left a picture in the PLA small arms thread) but if it wasn't a formal military delivery such as this one, I do recall their are civilian variants already available in the Philippine, my best guess is at this point they are being resourceful and are really not going to say no to anything that works, such as they wooden armor plans on the GKN Simba's.
The heavy equipment I meant were tanks, IFV, armored vehicles, armed helicopters... so on. Guns are considered as small arms.
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
The heavy equipment I meant were tanks, IFV, armored vehicles, armed helicopters... so on. Guns are considered as small arms.
They can export anything if Philippines decides to officially ally with China and not the US. And public ally declare they support China's claims in SCS/ESC against their own, Vietnam and Japan's claims. But right now they are still very much in the american camp.
 
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