Chinese military exports to other countries

Miragedriver

Brigadier
Argentina and China agree fighter aircraft working group

Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

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Argentina and China are to form a working group to look at the possible introduction into Argentine Air Force (Fuerza Aérea Argentina - FAA) service of a new Chinese fighter type, it was disclosed on 5 February.

The working group, which was discussed during a visit by between Argentine president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner to Beijing from 2 to 5 February, will look at the possible transfer of a range of military equipment to Buenos Aries. Chief among this equipment is either the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) FC-1/JF-17 or the CAC J-10 fighter aircraft.

Ahead of any transfer of aircraft, the working group will examine means by which the FAA might integrate such aircraft into its inventory, and support them once in service. Argentina stands to receive 14 fighter aircraft should the proposed transfer go ahead, though no timelines have been revealed.

ANALYSIS
For some years now, Argentina has been trying to replace its antiquated and increasingly unserviceable Dassault Mirage IIIEA, IAI Dagger, and McDonnell Douglas A-4 Skyhawk fighter fleets with a newer and more capable type.

News of the Argentine-Chinese working group comes weeks after it was reported that Russia had courted Argentina with the possible lease of Sukhoi Su-24 'Fencer' strike aircraft. While the UK Ministry of Defence took these reports seriously enough to review the defence of the Falkland Islands, the Su-24s would have no really operational utility for the FAA, and it would appear that any proposed transfer of such aircraft is likely the result of Russia playing political games with the UK over the continuing crisis in Ukraine.

Other, more realistic, options that have been touted over recent months include surplus Spanish Mirage F1s, Israeli Aerospace Industries (IAI) Kfirs, and Saab Gripen E/Fs. All of these appear to have stalled for either economic or political reasons (the proposed buy of the Gripen E/F was effectively vetoed by the UK, which manufactures many of the aircraft's systems).

The Chinese FC-1/JF-17 has also been previously touted as a possible option for the FAA, so it is interesting to see it once again mentioned with this latest Argentine-Chinese agreement. The J-10, however, has not been mentioned in relation to the FAA before.

First unveiled in 2006, the J-10 bears more than a passing resemblance to the 'Euro-canard' Gripen, Dassault Rafale, and Eurofighter Typhoon fighters (it has been claimed that the J-10 was actually developed from the Israeli Aerospace Industries Lavi, which was itself modelled from the Lockheed Martin F-16).

The single-seat, single-engined, fighter has a top speed of Mach 1.8 at altitude, a service ceiling of 55,000 ft, is cleared to +9/-3 g , has a radius-of-operation of 300 n miles (555 km; 345 miles), and a payload of 6,600 kg (14,550 lb) on 11 hardpoints. Weapons options include PL-8 (Python 3) or later air-to-air missiles (AAMs) such as PL-11 or PL-12; Vympel R-73 and R-77 AAMs; C-801 or C-802 air-to-surface missiles; YJ-8K (anti-ship) or YJ-9 (anti-radiation) missiles; and up to six 1,000 lb laser-guided or free-fall bombs. There is also an internally-mounted 23 mm cannon, and the provision for a Chinese-developed infrared/laser navigation and targeting pod.

The People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) is believed to have a requirement for up to 300 J-10s, and its inclusion in the FAA's inventory would represent a significant capability boost for Argentina.


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Dizasta1

Senior Member
If the Chinese were really keen to push the limit of their export parameters, then they will woo the Argentinians with an AESA-equipped J-15.

I don't think that it is in China's interest to push too far, too fast with capabilities such as AESA.

On the other hand, if China is able to produce a dubbed-down, yet capable AESA. Then I would advocate them to mass-market the thing.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
I don't think that it is in China's interest to push too far, too fast with capabilities such as AESA.

On the other hand, if China is able to produce a dubbed-down, yet capable AESA. Then I would advocate them to mass-market the thing.

I was actually referring to the notion of exporting a Flanker-derived fuselage (of Soviet origin) when speaking of "pushing the (export) limits".

But while on the topic, a notional "dubbed-down-yet-capable" AESA is really an oxymoron. You're not going to end up maintaining the low-cost advantage margin that many export fighters enjoy, unless you dumb down the AESA to the point that it's useless (e.g. J/APG-2). But again, J-15/16s will most likely never be exported, so their AESA radars can be as big (read: expensive) as the PLAAF warrants them.

Granted, there is talk about the Block III potentially adopting an AESA.
 

Miragedriver

Brigadier
Brazil incorporates its new oceanographic vessel

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(Defensa.com) In a baptism ceremony, weapons and sample transfer to the operating sector, Hidroceanográfico Research Vessel "Vital de Oliveira" was incorporated on March 24 at the Brazilian Navy. The event, held in the spring of Keppel Marine, Singapore, where the boat is being completed, was chaired by the Chief of Staff of the Navy, Fleet Admiral Wilson Barbosa War, with the participation of civil and military authorities.

The commander Aluízio Maciel Oliveira Jr. will command this ship equipped with highly advanced in terms of technology resources and up to 40 scientists aboard. The acquisition was made through a collaboration agreement between the Ministry of Science, Technology and Innovation, with companies Petrobras SA, Vale and the Brazilian Navy. Hangtong built by shipyards in Xinhui, China, the vessel will be used in the, biological, geological and environmental scientific research for physical characterization, chemistry, the most strategic areas of the South Atlantic Ocean. This is the first ship of the Brazilian Navy construdo in China

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antiterror13

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It is official now that Pakistan buy eight Chinese submarines
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ISLAMABAD/BEIJING (Reuters) - Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has approved a deal "years in the making" to buy eight submarines from China, a Pakistani government official said on Thursday, in what could be one of China's largest overseas weapons sales once it is signed.
The official, who was present at Tuesday's meeting of the National Assembly Standing Committee on Defence which was briefed by the Navy, said the deal to buy the diesel-electric submarines would likely be signed by Chinese President Xi Jinping when he visits, "but that is still not final".
Xi was due to travel to Pakistan this month, the government in Islamabad has said. China has said Xi would visit this year, but given no timeframe.
China and Pakistan call each other "all-weather friends" and their close ties have been underpinned by long-standing wariness of their common neighbour and rival, India, and a desire to hedge against U.S. influence across the region.
"The prime minister has approved buying eight submarines from China and these would be used to bolster Pakistan's strength," the official, who asked not to be identified, told Reuters.
He added that "last-minute homework is pending".
"Some officials are travelling to China even today. Work is ongoing," he said. "This deal is years in the making."
He said Pakistan was looking at S20 and Yuan class diesel-electric vessels.
A former senior Pakistan navy officer with knowledge of the negotiations told the Financial Times the contract could be worth $4 billion to $5 billion.
Asked about the submarines, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said China and Pakistan were friendly neighbours and that the two sides had normal military exchanges.
"I can tell you, relevant cooperation does not violate international convention and accords with China's three principles on military exports," she told a daily news briefing.
China is Pakistan's top supplier of weapons, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), which tracks global arms sales, selling 51 percent of the weapons Islamabad imported in 2010-2014.
China has also surpassed Germany to become the world's third largest arms exporter, SIPRI said in a report last month. Little is known about China's arms exports because the country does not publish data on such sales.
The Pakistani official also said that Pakistan had been in talks with France to buy new submarines, but the proposal was declined by the French.
A top U.S. Navy admiral said in February that, though they were technologically inferior, China's submarine fleet now outnumbered that of the United States.

(Reporting by Mehreen Zahra-Malik in Islamabad and Ben Blanchard and Megha Rajagopalan in Beijing; Writing by Nick Macfie; Editing by Alex Richardson)
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Pakistan is looking to form a naval strategic submarine command with cruise missile and SLBM capability

8 SSK would be great but I would like to see more

Either HQ9 or HQ16 SAM systems to Pakistan so we can form air land integrated defence, this is where the army air defence network works with the Air Force

Also 4 more advanced FFG

Z-10 is already here

Azmat class expansion is also under way

But really need those 8 x SSK and more 4 x F22P frigates

A high altitude SAM is also a must
 
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