Blackstone
Brigadier
It looks like you just want to complain, and it's your right. I standby my claim China's anti-sat laser is a threat to all spacefaring nations. You may, of course, claim otherwise, but you'll be irrational and wrong.
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broadsword
Brigadier
You are the one who is being irrational.
You have not answered my questions in order not to expose your irrationality.
And your latest irrational and ridiculous statement: history has not bearing on its future intentions.
vesicles
Colonel
In my opinion, what China is doing now is simply providing necessary checks and balances to the US. I am always a big believer of democracy and checks of powers. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We are now witnessing a beautiful display of democracy and checks and balances in the States, where the mad POTUS's crazy stunts have been effectively checked by the balance of power. And China has not done enough to challenge the absolute powers of the US, in sea, air, land AND space.
broadsword
Brigadier
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Henri K speculate that major milestone is reached at least prototype of railgun is close being manufactured
Beginning of industrialization of the naval electromagnetic gun?
BY
The Chinese shipbuilding group CSIC may have started the industrialization phase of electromagnetic gun, according to our analysis of the latest institutional publications.
Indeed, a delegation from the Central Military Commission, the highest command body of the Chinese army, visited on April 15 at a "certain" research institute of the Chinese group.
reported that throughout the visit, HU Wen Ming (问 鸣 PD) CEO accompanied Army General ZHANG You Xia (又 侠 侠), Head of Delegation and Director of the Development Department Military equipment, as well as several senior officials, such as the purchasing office manager and the director of the central planning office.
In particular, they visited the "test site" and listened to HU's report on the progress of the "project" and production, as well as the performance and characteristics of the "project".
General ZHANG said after the visit that he was fully satisfied and grateful for the progress made and the contribution made by that institute in the field of "naval equipment".
So what is this research institute and above all, what is this project, a priori of the Chinese navy, which attracted the heavy weights of the army?
The index may be found in one of the photographs of the article, on which one can identify the general of army ZHANG Youxia and the CEO of CSIC HU Wen Ming in the middle, and on the side of HU we have A familiar face - that of MA Wei Ming (马伟明), Vice-Admiral of the Chinese Navy, specialist in electrical engineering and one of the youngest academicians of the Chinese Academy of Engineering.
Photo taken after the visit of the CMC delegation to CSIC Institute 713 (Photo: CSIC)
MA is best known for its many fundamental research in electric propulsion and electromagnetic launch.
Following this trail and going through the latest publications of the CSIC group, we see that the man was visiting in mid-April accompanied by HU Wen Ming at the Institute 713 (*), an entity that designs and produces Naval guns for the Chinese navy, such as the H / PJ-26 of 76 mm or the H / PJ-38 of 130 mm for example.
Everything leads us to believe that a major event or milestone took place in April, around a naval armaments project in the electromagnetic field, which pushed all these people to gather together.
However, it is clear from our sources that CSIC Institute 713 has had little involvement in the design phase of the naval electromagnetic gun, a project funded by the Chinese Navy. The design is actually entrusted to Beijing University of Technology and Institute .
It can therefore be assumed that the Institute 713 has followed the development and is now concerned with the industrial production, or at least the prototyping, of the electromagnetic gun project of the Chinese Navy.
This point is also confirmed by an article (*) published on the Weixin social network of the Institute 713, which mentions the visit of the Academician MA to their test site in mid April. The latter spoke in particular of "several prototypes of the major product" (重点 产品 样机 样机).
CSIC Group CEO and academic MA Wei Ming at Institute 713 (Photo: CSIC)
For the moment we have little details on this Chinese electromagnetic gun, but we believe it is a small-caliber CIWS. Indeed, in an article published by the group CASIC in November 2016 is mentioned "the technologies of the universal launch of missiles electromagnetic" and "the technologies of electromagnetic launch for short-range curtain air defense" (近程幕 防空 防空 电磁 电磁 技术 技术 技术 技术
It is therefore not surprising that Chinese air force personnel can be seen in the photos taken during the delegation's visit to Institute 713, as parallel projects seem to have been launched In the field of anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense.
Examples include the visit of the deputy commander of the Chinese Air Force to Institute 27 of the Chinese electronics group CETC in February 2014. This first witness attended a demonstration described as "impressive" 'It could be an electromagnetic gun, but we do not yet know the details of this parallel project.
Chinese Air Force personnel were present during the visit to the 713 Institute (Photo: CSIC)
Finally, one could also exclude for the time being the possibility that this electromagnetic gun of the Chinese navy is of the ETC (Electrothermal-chemical) type, because this type of technologies is currently under development at the NUST University in Nanjing and The NORINCO armaments group, if we believe in their presentation at the 29th International Symposium on Ballistics.
Data from the ETC canon tests carried out by NUST University (Image: NUST)
To be continued.
Henri K.
Beginning of industrialization of the naval electromagnetic gun?
BY
The Chinese shipbuilding group CSIC may have started the industrialization phase of electromagnetic gun, according to our analysis of the latest institutional publications.
Indeed, a delegation from the Central Military Commission, the highest command body of the Chinese army, visited on April 15 at a "certain" research institute of the Chinese group.
reported that throughout the visit, HU Wen Ming (问 鸣 PD) CEO accompanied Army General ZHANG You Xia (又 侠 侠), Head of Delegation and Director of the Development Department Military equipment, as well as several senior officials, such as the purchasing office manager and the director of the central planning office.
In particular, they visited the "test site" and listened to HU's report on the progress of the "project" and production, as well as the performance and characteristics of the "project".
General ZHANG said after the visit that he was fully satisfied and grateful for the progress made and the contribution made by that institute in the field of "naval equipment".
So what is this research institute and above all, what is this project, a priori of the Chinese navy, which attracted the heavy weights of the army?
The index may be found in one of the photographs of the article, on which one can identify the general of army ZHANG Youxia and the CEO of CSIC HU Wen Ming in the middle, and on the side of HU we have A familiar face - that of MA Wei Ming (马伟明), Vice-Admiral of the Chinese Navy, specialist in electrical engineering and one of the youngest academicians of the Chinese Academy of Engineering.
Photo taken after the visit of the CMC delegation to CSIC Institute 713 (Photo: CSIC)
MA is best known for its many fundamental research in electric propulsion and electromagnetic launch.
Following this trail and going through the latest publications of the CSIC group, we see that the man was visiting in mid-April accompanied by HU Wen Ming at the Institute 713 (*), an entity that designs and produces Naval guns for the Chinese navy, such as the H / PJ-26 of 76 mm or the H / PJ-38 of 130 mm for example.
Everything leads us to believe that a major event or milestone took place in April, around a naval armaments project in the electromagnetic field, which pushed all these people to gather together.
However, it is clear from our sources that CSIC Institute 713 has had little involvement in the design phase of the naval electromagnetic gun, a project funded by the Chinese Navy. The design is actually entrusted to Beijing University of Technology and Institute .
It can therefore be assumed that the Institute 713 has followed the development and is now concerned with the industrial production, or at least the prototyping, of the electromagnetic gun project of the Chinese Navy.
This point is also confirmed by an article (*) published on the Weixin social network of the Institute 713, which mentions the visit of the Academician MA to their test site in mid April. The latter spoke in particular of "several prototypes of the major product" (重点 产品 样机 样机).
CSIC Group CEO and academic MA Wei Ming at Institute 713 (Photo: CSIC)
For the moment we have little details on this Chinese electromagnetic gun, but we believe it is a small-caliber CIWS. Indeed, in an article published by the group CASIC in November 2016 is mentioned "the technologies of the universal launch of missiles electromagnetic" and "the technologies of electromagnetic launch for short-range curtain air defense" (近程幕 防空 防空 电磁 电磁 技术 技术 技术 技术
It is therefore not surprising that Chinese air force personnel can be seen in the photos taken during the delegation's visit to Institute 713, as parallel projects seem to have been launched In the field of anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense.
Examples include the visit of the deputy commander of the Chinese Air Force to Institute 27 of the Chinese electronics group CETC in February 2014. This first witness attended a demonstration described as "impressive" 'It could be an electromagnetic gun, but we do not yet know the details of this parallel project.
Chinese Air Force personnel were present during the visit to the 713 Institute (Photo: CSIC)
Finally, one could also exclude for the time being the possibility that this electromagnetic gun of the Chinese navy is of the ETC (Electrothermal-chemical) type, because this type of technologies is currently under development at the NUST University in Nanjing and The NORINCO armaments group, if we believe in their presentation at the 29th International Symposium on Ballistics.
Data from the ETC canon tests carried out by NUST University (Image: NUST)
To be continued.
Henri K.
Jura The idiot
General
what's the output (sorry if I missed it in the article)? I mean in megajoules; it's well known the USN shot up to 33 MJ and I noticed about testing fancy projectiles Saturday at 9:17 PM
by the way I'm probably too old to appreciate naval rail guns LOL and my suspicions like these from
Feb 2, 2017
remain unaddressed...
- at the longest range: it's not easy for me to imagine shooting, at M7 or so,
a metal rod almost 200 km up to the spaceso that it hits, at M5 or so,
more than 400 km at some compound around which Ospreys then arrive, but it's
an interesting idea;- at the shortest range, I don't know how a railgun is supposed to work in its CIWS role:
would it shoot projectiles with a fragmentation warhead? or perhaps take advantage
of its projectile's speed to slam it into an incoming missile?? (dubious considering evasive
maneuvers but I won't delete it
- at the mid range (100 or so km), I'm completely at loss while thinking about anti-shipping fire:
the railgun fire would need to be corrected, I guess by observing the splashes, by
a drone with an EOTS or something, flying over the horizon, but if you're still with me,
you can tell me why they wouldn't just shoot an AShM instead and did a mid-course
correction since supposedly there would the drone in place, communicating??
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It's not gonna be as powerful as the USN railgun since the objective is different. The USN railgun is meant to be used against enemy vessels whereas this one targets aircraft and missiles.
at the shortest range, I don't know how a railgun is supposed to work in its CIWS role:
would it shoot projectiles with a fragmentation warhead? or perhaps take advantage
of its projectile's speed to slam it into an incoming missile?? (dubious considering evasive
maneuvers but I won't delete it
I think the idea is that with an extremely high speed the projectiles will hit the missile "in between" the evasive maneuvers while its trajectory can be calculated.
Blackstone
Brigadier
Post your inquiry in US military section and not here. I welcome your considered response, and I will ignore insincere games.
Jura The idiot
General
I answered in the thread
Modern CIWS & Anti-Missile Systems (Deployed and in development)
2 minutes ago
we may go on there for as long as we want