Chinese LACM

I've one question concerning LACMs the PLA is about to deploy or even already deploying. what are exactly the specs on that thing? for example what are the ranges of the LACMs 200km? 300km? 1000+km? And what should be their accuracy? and on what platforms will it be operational in let's say 2010? thanks a bunch!

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First as this is a missile topic i'll move it to airforce forum (everything that leaves the ground is either naval or airwarfare and should belong to the dedicated place)

but to the point. Ansewring to that question is extremely hard couse we (and by "we" i mean the whole wide range of armchair military masterminds outside chinese missiledeveloping industry) honestly know so little about chinese cruise missiles. So giving we can only anwser to your questions by assumptions and speculations. But i'll try to give my toughts and please feel free to add and make corrections if you have more additional info...or if your own specualtions and obinios varies from mine...

what are exactly the specs on that thing?

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No one really knows, even the proper desingnation is misty as Yj-62/63, C-805, HN-5 and YJ-12 have all come agross when mentioning chinese new LACM. But most likely the name is Yj-62 and it refers to this missile:


From here it can be roughly esitimated that missile is somewhat similar size to Tomahawk and Kh-55 but more accurate estimation is almoust impossiple to make.

for example what are the ranges of the LACMs 200km? 300km? 1000+km?

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That is also hard to say but lot is to do whit the engine. If it is a turbojet powered as i strongly belive then the range is less than 1000 km mayby more close to 500 km. Over 1,000 km range LACMs, both Tomahawk and Kh-55 have a turbofan engine and i strongly doupt that china is able to produce an indegenious turbofan for cruisemissile size. Other LACMs like 3M-14E and the pakistanese Babur have a turbojet engines and 300-500 km range.

and on what platforms will it be operational in let's say 2010?

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The most likely platforms will be the 052C whit theyr mysterious launching cannisters. Also i think that china is going similar ways as others and some sort of submarine launched version is in development (or gould be that the missile is desinged to be sublaunched from the begining) Tough the resent gossips about KluB-S aqustions for the Kilos speaks against this chinese missile. Wheter it will be in service 2010, certainly as the speed of getting these new chinese military systems operational have proved.

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right you are Gollevainen, next time I'll choose the forum more carefully

too bad so little is known about this PLA LACM.....It is definately a kickass thought to think that China now also posseses the precision strike capability by LACMs....I just love to see some credible counter weight to the US domination.

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China New Strategic Cruise Missiles: From the Land, Sea and Air


On April 24 a Taiwan intelligence source disclosed [1] what has now been expected for several years: in 2005 the People Liberation Army (PLA) will begin to deploy the first versions of its new 1,000km+ range subsonic-speed strategic land attack cruise missile (LACM). For the PLA both the development of long-range LACMs and defense against U.S. LACMs have been a very high priority. In development since the 1970s, China new LACM is expected to approximate the performance and tactical flexibility of the U.S. RGM/UGM-109 TOMAHAWK and eventually will eventually be fielded in ground, submarine, ship and air launched versions. This means a new stage of power-projection for the PLAlobal non-nuclear strike.


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China has already produced a mini turbofan.

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On April 24 a Taiwan intelligence source disclosed [1] what has now been expected for several years: in 2005 the People Liberation Army (PLA) will begin to deploy the first versions of its new 1,000km+ range subsonic-speed strategic land attack cruise missile (LACM).

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so if china already have a 1000+km LACM, then what would be the accuracy of this missile? (i donno nothing about the RGM/UGM-109 TOMAHAWK, so couldn't draw the conclusion myself )

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so if china already have a 1000+km LACM, then what would be the accuracy of this missile? (i donno nothing about the RGM/UGM-109 TOMAHAWK, so couldn't draw the conclusion myself )

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I think that depends on the target.

Against a large stationary target, you can simply program the cruise missile for pre-set flight path (with GPS), then use digital imaging for terminal guidance. Tomahawks claim 10m CEP against large stationary targets.

Both the PRC and ROC have developed LACM's with 1,000 km range. I donno what their true accuracy rate is, but can guess that against a stationary building that cannot grow legs and walk away, it'd prolly have a fairly good CEP.

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China has already produced a mini turbofan.

it has? is there any solid facts proving your statement? If there is and china truly have produced turbofan suitable for missiles then my estimations of the range was too low. Perhaps nearer to 1000km range could be achived then tough we must remember that engine type isent the sole factor when range is considered...and this is all only if there really is an turbofan....

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its accuracy depends what the chinhese are using for guidance. im guessing varients now are using inertial+gps, but the gps may be replaced by gllileo in the future.
i would sy the mislle can hit withing 5-10 feet of the target

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the turbo fan for missiles is WS-500, I believe, you just need to check the pla ac engine thread in CDF.

For information on LACM, check out Richard Fisher's article, he is a long time observer of PLA.