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B.I.B.

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Australia lease port to China

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"............The Landbridge Group, owned by Chinese billionaire Ye Cheng, was announced in October as the winning bidder for a deal to operate Darwin's port in a deal worth A$506 million ($362.65 million).........."

Meanwhile China's Genius Link Group and fellow Chinese company Shanghai Pengxin who were the front runners amongst a group of bidders for some of Australias largest cattle ranches miss out because

Federal Government says it will refuse to authorise sale of Australia's largest cattle holdings, S. Kidman & Co to foreign buyers


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janjak desalin

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China just uncovered a $64 billion 'underground bank'
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Chinese authorities just uncovered a massive "underground bank" in the country's eastern Zhejiang province, according to a report in
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, the official Chinese Communist Party newspaper.

The scale of the operation reported is astonishing. The report suggests 410 billion yuan ($64 billion, £42 billion) in foreign-exchange transactions were made by the unnamed illegal organisation — 370 people have reportedly been arrested.

China's currency is tightly regulated by the government, so even multinational firms have struggled with large foreign-exchange deals. An underground bank effectively smuggles money in and out of China for investors.

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, a man named Zhao Mouyi transferred billions of yuan through bank accounts meant for international companies, which are not usually available to Chinese citizens.

Here's a snippet from Bloomberg's report:

Zhao circumvented the capital controls by directly transferring yuan overseas and then exchanged the money into foreign currencies at banks including HSBC Holdings Plc in Hong Kong, the People's Daily said. Zhao then allegedly transferred it to his clients’ accounts, the report said, citing the local police.

The size of the bank means it makes up over half of the underground financial activities that have been identified since earlier this year.

The Chinese government is engaged in a major crackdown on corruption, which is paired with attempts to stem the flight of capital from the country. Until recently, the world was buying the yuan (or renminbi) on net, as people battled to invest in China. Now that's changing:

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With Chinese growth slowing and investment opportunities elsewhere, people are trying to get money out of the country, but the strict capital controls stop that from happening through official channels. That's why the illegal or "underground" banks crop up.
 
New milestone for ASEAN and China economic integration

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China, ASEAN seals deal to upgrade bilateral FTA
2015-11-23 04:29:51

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov. 22 (Xinhua) -- China and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (
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) sealed a deal here Sunday to upgrade their free trade area (FTA), injecting fresh impetus into regional economic cooperation.

A protocol that pronounces the full conclusion of China-ASEAN negotiations on upgrading their FTA was signed at a ceremony in the Kuala Lumpur Convention Center in the presence of visiting Chinese Premier
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and leaders of the 10-member ASEAN.

The upgrade of the FTA, China's first with foreign trading partners, was nailed down after only four rounds of talks that officially started in August 2014, in a sign of the common aspiration and practical need of both sides to deepen and expand cooperation in trade and economy.

Covering a wide range of areas including goods, services, investment, and economic and technological cooperation, the upgrade will provide fresh momentum for economic development of both China and ASEAN.

Conducive to fostering a closer China-ASEAN community of common destiny, the move is also to help realize the target of scaling up two-way trade to 1 trillion U.S. dollars by 2020 and promote the negotiations on the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership and the Free Trade Area of the Asia-Pacific.

In their negotiations, China and ASEAN attached great significance to the facilitation of trade in goods and investment, further opening up the services market and lifting the level of economic and technological cooperation, Chinese Commerce Minister Gao Hucheng told reporters after the signing ceremony.

China enjoys abundant capital and strong technological strength, while ASEAN aspires for accelerated regional integration and has great needs for industrial development and infrastructure, Gao said.

Therefore, the two sides have compatible concepts of cooperation, complementary economic advantages, and great potential in bilateral collaboration, he added.

Taking effect in 2010, the China-ASEAN FTA has made China the bloc's biggest trading partner and ASEAN the third largest trading partner of the world's second largest economy.

Thanks to the FTA, China-ASEAN economic and trade relations have enjoyed heathy and stable development. Bilateral trade surged nearly nine times from 54.8 billion U.S. dollars in 2002 to 480.4 billion in 2014, according to the minister.

Established in 1967, ASEAN groups Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the
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, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.
 
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How China can be a model of food sustainability for the developing world

Frank-Jürgen Richter says nations in Africa and Asia can learn from Beijing’s experiments with infrastructure and new methods in agriculture to generate growth and wealth


PUBLISHED : Sunday, 22 November, 2015, 2:00pm
UPDATED : Sunday, 22 November, 2015, 2:00pm

Frank-Jürgen Richter




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The Chinese “food aid” model could help developing nations in Asia and Africa boost their local production and prevent early deaths due to malnutrition.Food and water – we cannot do without them, but too often these resources are squandered and lost. The global population currently stands at about 7.3 billion, which the UN predicts will grow to about 11.2 billion by 2100 and then fall to a fairly constant level of 10 billion. As the world has become richer, families have opted for fewer children; most of the globe now has a replacement rate of less than two except for countries in sub-Saharan Africa and across much of Asia: future growth will be in these regions. China, in Asia, has good links to many nations in Africa and can exert great influence.







In its recent five-year plans, Beijing has focused on infrastructure expansion while maintaining growth. As a consequence, it has garnered a large sovereign wealth fund that may be spent on its future social aims – to support the elderly and enhance the learning potential of its children (it has just announced the scrapping of its one-child family policy).

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It is approaching these aims in several ways; one has been to vastly increase its transport and telecoms infrastructure, another is by constructing many new towns to entice rural migrants away from the now overcrowded coastal cities that were originally responsible for China’s economic boom. The inland cities and towns are taking up this clarion call.

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Gansu farmers air hot peppers. Better management of the soil can increase productivity. Photo: XinhuaAnother infrastructure change, a massive experiment, concerns the diversion of the southern Yangtze River water to the arid industrialised northern towns. The South-North Transfer should divert 45 billion cubic metres of water annually through a network of canals and tunnels – and water has just begun to flow north along its eastern phase. Of course, many people have been displaced along its route, and they have valid woes, but the greater good will be felt in the north where many poor people live, as well as the wealthy. Those who have been displaced ought to be relocated to new towns along the route benefiting from the infrastructure that aims to develop new local wealth.

The farms will more easily connect to market hubs via new rural roads, and the hubs can redistribute crops quickly by road, rail or air to distant markets
The 13th five-year plan aims to lift China’s remaining 70 million poor above the US$2 per day threshold. Beijing managed that task partially though its previous five-year plan by spectacularly meeting the UN Millennium Goals and I believe that its bedrock of infrastructure and momentum for change will allow it to meet the new goals.

On the way, the government will be able to reorganise its social welfare programme, ordibao, especially if tied to a rearrangement of the hukou system for new town residents, ensuring they have rights equally as good as traditional urban residents’. But this all takes time.

Meanwhile, rural farmers can be aided in the short term. There are fewer each year as older people die and the younger ones move to cities. This allows land to be consolidated into larger farms that are more amenable to modern methods and machinery, increasing yields. By better managing the soil, it has as a by-product an increased ability to capture carbon – aiding another of China’s aims: to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions. The farms will more easily connect to market hubs via new rural roads (also in the latest five-year plan), and the hubs can redistribute crops quickly by road, rail or air to distant markets. Cash flows along the food chain will increase intermediaries’ wealth and thus taxes for the government, and the economic flux will attract additional competitive entrants with new ideas for land husbandry: all in all, a positive system response.

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A vegetable dealer sits among pockets of onions at the Hexi farm produce wholesale market in Taiyuan City, Shanxi Province. By lifting yields at local levels, the rural population will become wealthier and healthier. Photo: XinhuaBut not all is plain sailing – achieving increased yields requires identifying alternative sources for competing uses of crop residues (for fodder, fuel and construction, etc) and balancing land use for crops versus housing or commerce. There is a need for a radical change in mindset at all levels of the social hierarchy. There must be a paradigm shift to the sustainable management of soil resources – through no-till farming, retention of crop residue as mulch and use of manure and compost to enhance soil fertility and generally reducing the overuse of chemical fertilisers and pesticides that leech into water systems.

By lifting yields at local levels, the rural population will become wealthier and healthier – while their excess crops can be consolidated in market hubs for effective distribution
All these aspects must be an integral component of any government programme related to improving agricultural productivity, achieving food security, enhancing water quality and mitigating climate change. And, in parallel, the development of food supply-chain management is needed, as well as educating consumers that slightly damaged fruit or vegetables are still wholesome. Across Europe and the US, it is remarkable how much food never reaches the supermarket shelves because of cosmetic rules on shape and size. The EU Commission even attempted to rule that bananas and cucumbers had to be straighter; fortunately the plan never went anywhere.

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China, with its penchant for strongly devolved central management, can define a model of “food aid” that will support its own increasing demand for food from decreasing agricultural space (due to housing and industrial spread) and may increase the export of crops. By lifting yields at local levels, the rural population will become wealthier and healthier – while their excess crops can be consolidated in market hubs for effective distribution. This will reduce the losses “from field to fork” which, in India, are often said to be about 40 per cent of the original crop.

The Chinese model, supported by Chinese loans and Chinese managers, could be “exported” to countries across Asia and Africa to boost their local food production and prevent early deaths due to malnutrition. It will not be a panacea but a positive route to sustainability in regions predicted to have population growth. And such aid will show China to be an even better global citizen.

Frank-Jürgen Richter is founder and chairman of Horasis, a global visions community


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B.I.B.

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The lineup of global economic powerhouses is going to see some changes by 2050.

China is expected to surpass the US in terms of nominal GDP by 2026 — aka in 11 years, according to The Economist Intelligence Unit.

India, the
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, is expected jump to third place, with real growth averaging around 5% by 2050. Plus, Indonesia and Mexico will vault up into the top 10.

On the flip side, Germany, the UK, and France will move down in rank, while Russia and Italy will shift out of the top ten.

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Blackstone

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Some welcomed progress in US-China IP protection and BIT talks.

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GUANGZHOU, China (Reuters) - The United States Commerce Secretary said on Monday China would offer better legal protection to U.S. firms that suffer theft of trade secrets after annual trade talks that yielded scant progress on other topics like a proposed investment treaty.

Few breakthroughs had been expected ahead of the Joint Commission on Commerce and Trade (JCCT) talks in the southern Chinese city of Guangzhou, amid tensions over cyber hacking; a topic that had been addressed by both sides in September during President Xi Jinping's visit to the U.S.

The U.S., led by Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker and Trade Secretary Michael Froman, however, said after a weekend of talks that China clarified its intent to do more to help firms facing the theft of trade secrets.

"We got significant outcomes on trade secrets which is a really big issue," Pritzker told Reuters in an interview.

"This is where China clarified its intent to make preliminary injunctions and meaningful remedies and other judicial protections more easily accessible to those who are confronting trade secret theft ... It's a big deal."

The issue has become a growing problem for American companies. Victims have included General Motors, Ford, DuPont, Dow Chemical, Motorola, Boeing and Cargill as well as lesser-known firms.

Xi and U.S. President Obama agreed in September that neither government would knowingly support cyber theft of corporate secrets to support domestic businesses, but U.S. experts argue Chinese hackers continue to target U.S. firms. [nL1N12J048]

U.S. trade representative Michael Froman also told Reuters that he expected some U.S. genetically modified crop strains, including GMO soybeans, could be approved by China by year end, following protracted reviews.

"The approval process has been stuck for a long time, we're encouraging China to move them out," Froman told Reuters.

While Beijing has pledged to loosen its manufacturing and service sectors, regulators issued a negative list of prohibited and restricted industries for foreign investors in March.

U.S. business lobbies say China's negative list is too broad and must be cut back.

Thorny negotiations over the negative list, part of a proposed new investment pact called the bilateral investment treaty (BIT), have weighed on commercial ties.

Froman, however, said there had been no concrete progress on this front during the current talks.

"There's still significant work to be done for the negative list."

The Chinese delegation at the talks was led by vice premier Wang Yang. Wang spoke earlier of differences between the two sides and of the need "to turn the political will and joint expectation into concrete outcomes of co-operation."
 

Blackstone

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Mobius positive on sustained Chinese economic growth.

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There has been great concern regarding the slowdown of growth in China and its impact on commodity demand and, therefore, commodity prices. Crude oil’s price gyrations tend to get the most attention, but China’s share of global oil consumption is about 12%, which is significant but less than that of the United States.
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One could argue that Chinese demand patterns likely have played an even greater part in influencing prices of many other commodities where China holds an even larger share of global consumption. China’s share of global grain consumption was around 22% in 2014
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and its share of global metal consumption tripled from 13% in 2000 to 47% in 2014.
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China is a key consumer of aluminum, nickel, copper, zinc, tin and iron ore. Of course, China isn’t only a consumer of raw commodities—its growing middle class has been exerting formidable purchasing power and spawning new domestic industries that are of keen interest to us as investors, including cosmetics, entertainment (cinemas, music) and more.

As China continues its transition to a domestic-led economic model from one that has been primarily export based, the country’s overall gross domestic product (GDP) growth has slowed. A slowing in growth is to be expected given the tremendous increase in the size of China’s economy over the past couple of decades, but we must not forget the dollar value of its economy has grown tremendously. There has been some debate about how China’s demand for commodities overall will change as its economic model shifts.

We think China’s energy and metal consumption is more likely to increase than decrease over the long term given the tremendous growth and improvement in infrastructure that is still needed in China compared with developed countries. This sustained demand is likely to be fueled by continued migration from rural areas in China to the cities, in our view. However, we recognize that demand may not meet previous expectations of various commodity-producing firms, which may have overestimated demand growth from China and other parts of the world.

Importance of Iron Ore in Infrastructure

The demand for iron ore—a key component of steel and of critical importance in infrastructure—is of particular significance to China, which holds 50% of the world’s share of crude steel production.
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Of course we expect that share could decline as China’s economy becomes more consumer-oriented and less dependent on infrastructure for growth while other countries such as India enter a period of high infrastructure development. In any case, China currently has become so influential that the global benchmark price of iron ore—which used to be determined in Japan—is now based on the price on delivery at Chinese ports. China’s booming steel production, however, has come with a cost—clouds of pollution over its capital Beijing.

Premier Li Keqiang has vowed to find solutions to clean up the air, including stiffer penalties for violators of anti-pollution laws and regulations. Ceremonies in Beijing tied to the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II in early September resulted in the closure of thousands of steel factories in the region and the stoppage of thousands of construction sites in order to cut down on pollution during the events. The government also has enacted policies to cope with overcapacity in the steelmaking area, shifting some production from Hebei province (responsible for most of Beijing’s smog) to the coastal areas. Recycling of steel is also expected to increase in China, which could impact long-term trends in production, pollution—and prices.

While we certainly can’t predict where commodity prices will go next, we do know that as a result of its large role in commodity consumption, China is now becoming a center for commodity trading previously dominated by London and New York. One example of this is the purchase of the London Metal Exchange in 2012 by the Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing Ltd.

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China’s Consumption Shifts: Music and Cosmetics

While the concern about China’s demand for raw materials is certainly noteworthy, I find the blossoming of new industries and services in China perhaps an even more compelling story. Our team is looking for potential investment opportunities in China that are driven by a shift in consumer tastes and trends as wages improve and the middle class continues to expand. As I travel around China, I’m finding industries that didn’t exist decades before and are now leaving a footprint on the economy.

Music is one example. As in other parts of the world, music is a vital part of Chinese life. Walking down the streets of the various Chinese cities I have visited, I’ve spotted a number of karaoke parlors, a testament to its growing popularity. Assessing the popularity of various Chinese artists, however, is a full-time job, and one that is more complicated in China than perhaps in some other countries. While in the United States the main source is Billboard, a music industry magazine that tabulates a list of top songs and album sales, in China there are numerous music charts. According to one report, a Chinese music video streaming site is vying for leadership in the field by teaming up with Billboard to list the Chinese firm’s weekly Chinese pop-music statistics on its website. The music industry globally is taking notice of the growing influence of the Chinese consumer. For example, the US rock band Bon Jovi recently recorded a popular song in Mandarin.

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Wiki CommonsA karaoke bar in Wuhun, China.

Currently the Chinese music market is small, with estimated digital music revenue of about US$91 million per year in 2014, while in the United States it was US$3.5 billion, according to the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry. Official statistics indicate that more than 400 million people in China listen to music online, but it’s a tough market because it is becoming more and more difficult to get these online listeners to pay. There must be new ways of measuring listenership and generating revenue. One industry website gauges weekly song popularity by fan clicks and posts the information on its own official site in addition to data from microblog platforms. Many Chinese fans are also willing to pay to let their “likes,” or favorites, be known on the Internet. One unique complication for the Chinese music industry is that Chinese pop songs are now sung not only in Mandarin but also Cantonese.

As China is becoming more and more urbanized and per-capita incomes are rising, it is also not surprising that China has been catching up with the United States in other areas of consumption, too, one being cosmetics. Annual sales growth of beauty and personal care products in China has been outpacing global cosmetic sales growth, and global sales of skin care products in Asia overall are expected to make up nearly half of all global skin care sales this year.
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Most of China’s cosmetics and skin care market is dominated by foreign brands, so local firms have a lot of catching up to do. South Korea has been a major influence in this area, as a quarter of its cosmetics exports land in China.
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Distribution of cosmetics in China is made through supermarkets and hypermarkets, department stores, cosmetic specialty stores and online.

In our view, the future is bright for both the music and cosmetics industries—among others—in the world’s most populous country. While China’s growth rate overall may be slowing from decades past, that is not something that worries us, as we believe China will remain a powerful global growth driver and influence in many industries for years to come.
 

Qi_1528

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China's growth story is far from over, that's for sure. But we do have to acknowledge the alarming amount of private and local government debt. China is in for a bit of a bumpy ride until this problem has been dealt with through restructuring and write offs. The "China will collapse" crowd will have a good time watching the pain, but they'll be dissappointed (again).

Greece's former finance minister Yanis Varoufakis visited Australia recently, and has been in our media a bit. I happened to notice some comments he made about the Chinese economy:

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LEIGH SALES: And in terms of, for Australia, with the relationship with China that we have and the amount of resources that we export to China, do you think that that provides any sort of special buffer for Australia in a time where the global economy remains a little fragile?

YANIS VAROUFAKIS: I wouldn’t call it a buffer because the reason why Australia didn’t suffer the way the rest of the world did after 2008 was because China created, intentionally – and I’m not criticising them; they did very well to do it – they created an artificial bubble in the real estate sectors of China and on the basis of that bubble, the back of that bubble, if you want, they managed to boost investment and take up the slack that the Global Financial Crisis was creating. But that bubble now is deflating, as it was going to. The Chinese authorities created it hoping that the Europeans and the Americans would get their act together in the meantime. That didn’t happen and now this is deflating. Australia benefitted enormously from that bubble and now it’s going to take the pain that comes with the deflation of that bubble.

Emphasis mine.

This is something many media pundits seem to forget. China put its stimulus plan in place to buy time for the Western world to sort itself out. Seven years later, and Western policy makers have failed to produce anything more than sluggish growth. It seems many of China's policy makers have realised the West can't be relied on, so the shift from export led growth to internally led growth had to be accelerated.
 

Equation

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The great property rush is part of the tidal wave of Chinese money that is pouring into the global economy and reshaping financial markets. In residential and commercial real estate, the new flow of cash is upending the traditional dynamics of buying and selling.

This year, Chinese families represented for the first time the largest group of overseas home buyers in the United States. Big spenders on new homes are helping prop up local economies in the Midwest. But in dense areas like San Francisco and Manhattan, they are also affecting the affordability and availability of housing, as demand outpaces supply and bidding wars ensue.

While Chinese purchases make up a small sliver of overall sales in the United States, they have had a disproportionate impact on the market for more expensive properties, buying one in 14 homes sold for more than $1 million. On average, buyers from China, including the mainland, Taiwan and Hong Kong, pay $831,800 for a home, more than three times as much as Americans spend, according to a National Association of Realtors survey.

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AssassinsMace

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The New York Times is trying blame China again. In San Francisco the cause of extremely high housing costs is coming from mostly hi-tech companies. There was a study done projecting that San Francisco will be the only major city in the US where the white population is going to increase. That's because of all these hi-tech companies and their workers that get paid a lot of money are looking for a place to live. They're squeezing out others because property owners and land lords want to charge higher prices upper class incomes can only afford. There was even a story I believe was a Google executive who lives in his car in the parking lot because housing and rent prices are too high for him. There was controversy in SF where a property owner wanted to classify his building as a hostel where people live communally but he charges $2000-$3000 dollars per month for a bed. Most of his tenants are hi-tech employees. Google has caused controversy where they have buses that pick up workers in SF which has gentrified neighborhoods like the Mission District. Then there's the superrich from all over the US that buy up multiples properties for investment in a hot market and they sit empty 90% of the year. San Francisco has become the playground for the Silicon Valley rich. High housing prices in SF ain't because of China.
 
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