Chinese cruise and anti-ship missiles

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  1. SinoSoldier
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    SD-10A used as a SAM

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    ^^^ translation:

    SD-10A is ground launched and modified from SD-10 mid range air-air missile

    can be used for area-wide, point and battle field air defense.

    Uses inertial + data link + terminal active radar guidance.

    Range 50km, operation altitude 30m - 20Km.

    Can be slant or vertical launched.

    Length 5.054m, diameter 0.203/0.260m, Fin width 0.752m when extended and 0.660m when folded.

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    Seems comparable to HQ-16 stats, similar length but almost half the body diameter.

    HQ-16 can engage from 15m to 25m height but I think the 30m limit is only set due to land terrains. Wonder if they could adopt this for sea launch and even replace the QH-16.
     
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    it will be used for "quad-packed" SAM for 052D and future 054B
     
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    At 0.66m I'm not sure if it could be quad-packed, maybe if they have a finless or retractable variant.
     
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    In this thread we have all kind of discussion about how US is going to defeat the anti access. Some forummer here were quite confidence that US can jam the data link and communication of ASBM . Well did it ever occur to them that China can also jam US data link and communication.

    Here is an interesting possibility even if it comes from the Free Beacon it was based on paper published in China so don't dismiss it because the messenger is Free beacon


    Chinese Military Capable of Jamming U.S. Communications System
    U.S. spy’s secrets assist Chinese electronic warfare against U.S. military data links
    Chinese Military Capable of Jamming U.S. Communications System | Washington Free Beacon

    BY: Bill Gertz
    September 20, 2013 4:59 am

    China’s military is using stolen U.S. military secrets obtained from a convicted spy to defeat a high-technology communications system used in joint warfighting, combined arms warfare, and missile defenses, according to U.S. officials.

    The disclosure that China has the capability of jamming the Joint Tactical Information Distribution System, or JTIDS, was revealed in a Chinese military technical article published in July.

    JTIDS is part of a group of military communications systems called Link 16 that gives U.S. military forces jam-resistant communications, a key strategic advantage used in joint warfighting, a specialty of the American military.

    JTIDS allows for a nearly unlimited number of military commanders and operators to share information, such as precision location or position data, critical in tracking, monitoring, and targeting. It is also resistant to electronic warfare attacks by rapidly jumping to different frequencies.

    The Chinese article reveals that the People’s Liberation Army is studying this feature and working to defeat it.

    The article, “Anti-Jamming Performance of JTIDS-Type Waveform,” was published July 10 in the journal Aerospace Electronic Warfare, a publication of Institute 8511, a unit of the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC).

    The article states that Chinese researchers have studied the JTIDS anti-jamming capabilities and formulated an “optimal jamming strategy from the point of view of the interferer.”

    The Chinese article reveals that researchers have extensively studied JTIDS and produced several technical articles on the system. The article discussed “broadband barrage jamming” and “partial-band interference” of JTIDS.

    As a result, the researchers “discovered that the only way to obtain a good interference result is to increase the interference power.”

    A footnote to the article notes other work has been done on how to interfere with JTIDS communications.

    According to court papers, Gregg Bergersen, a weapons system analyst with the Pentagon’s Defense Security Cooperation Agency, sold secrets on a JTIDS variant known as Po Sheng that was sold to Taiwan in the early 2000s.

    An FBI affidavit in the case revealed that Bergersen “discussed Po Sheng and communications security” during a dinner meeting on March 3, 2007 with a Chinese agent identified as Tai Shenkuo. The affidavit said the talks involved disclosure of classified information.

    Bergersen was director of command, control, communications, computers, and intelligence programs for the Navy. He pleaded guilty in 2008 to charges of disclosing national defense secrets to China. He was sentenced to four and a half years in prison.

    Michelle Van Cleave, national counterintelligence executive under President George W. Bush, said China’s military has targeted U.S. military communications technology for collection.

    “China would like nothing better than to be able to disrupt or corrupt sensitive U.S. military communications—it is at the heart of their military strategies of information dominance and anti-access/area-denial,” Van Cleave said in an email. “So they send spies to steal what they need with the help of traitors like Bergerson who blithely sell it to them.”

    Mark Stokes, a former Pentagon official and specialist on Chinese military affairs said the Chinese military for years has invested large sums in electronic countermeasures technology.

    “The denial of U.S., Japan, South Korea, Taiwan abilities to employ JTIDS is only one goal,” Stokes said. “Satellite jamming is another area of focus. The PLA also is investing into R&D on a range of communications technologies, including tactical data links.”

    Richard Fisher, an expert on China’s military with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said in addition to countermeasures, China likely used the military technology secrets obtained from Bergersen to develop its own jam-proof tactical communications system.

    “It’s a fact the Chinese are developing their own JTIDS-like Link 16 system for distributed command and control operations,” Fisher said, adding that an early version is probably in use now by Chinese military forces.

    “Right now Link 16 is a crucial force multiplier that allows the United States to fight jointly,” he said. “It is the main linkage between different kind of forces and different services. Taking away Link 16 makes our defensive challenge far more difficult and makes it far more expensive in terms of casualties” in any future conflict with China.

    Stokes said Link 16 communications are a “backbone” for advance data links for the military rooted in German Field Marshal Erwin Rommel’s North Africa campaign in World War II when a flexible system of tactical communications connected individual tanks.

    The communications allowed greater situational awareness and allowed junior officers to take independent and decentralized action.

    Today, the U.S. military has applied this concept to what it calls network centric operations.

    Recent Chinese military writings indicate the People’s Liberation Army is focused on attacking the United States using electronic and other means targeting network centric operations, like Link 16.

    Network-centric warfare gives military forces the ability to “synchronize action, without necessarily having to wait for orders, which in turn reduces their reaction time,” Stokes wrote in a recent paper for the Project 2049 Institute, where he is an analyst.

    The communications also are used in missile defenses, which require rapid transference of data on targets to guidance systems.

    China is known to be targeting U.S. missile defenses and is also developing its own missile defenses.
     
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    no doubt it would be a different variant of SD-10 (e.g. retractable) .. it's very obvious and logical :p
     
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    The site where I got this says it's the DF-21D ASBM or it's something new.

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    Here's supposedly something new.

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    The CM-400AKG?
     
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    It could be. Here's a pic to compare it with.
     
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