Chinese Counterfeit Parts Found in U.S. Military
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
What the Senate Arms Service Committee is hiding is this is purely a case of corruption by their own military contractors trying to make more money by buying the cheaper "counterfeit" version. If there's some sort of conspiracy by China as some are trying to make, something drastically more serious would be charged more than counterfeiting. If China knew what was happening and what these parts were being used for, wouldn't that be called sabotage. So what it is they're doing in the Senate Arms Service Committee is covering up and protecting the companies involved.
If this is true, well you can only blame yourself. When buying military hardware and parts, especially from foreign country, you should always check the quality of the systems. China cannot be even blame for this. The only group that can be blamed on is the Company and the corrupt officials that purchased this items.
In a way, I still kind of don't believe that this is true. IMO I think they are hyping the threat of buying Chinese.
In a way, I still kind of don't believe that this is true. IMO I think they are hyping the threat of buying Chinese.
There are legit hardware recycling / refab business that goes on all the time.
its not a "dark secret".
half of the time the components used in consumer electronics are refurbs. entire labtops are assembled using refurb parts.
it would actually be a giant waste if they all go to landfill.
what strikes me is the way these defensee contractors has no way (or purposely don't care) to keep track oftheir supply chain.
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and ofcourse.
beat on china, the scape goat.
its not a "dark secret".
half of the time the components used in consumer electronics are refurbs. entire labtops are assembled using refurb parts.
it would actually be a giant waste if they all go to landfill.
what strikes me is the way these defensee contractors has no way (or purposely don't care) to keep track oftheir supply chain.
...
and ofcourse.
beat on china, the scape goat.
Quickie
Colonel
In the same article, you see how things are spin differently within a few paragraphs.
Which means the chips concerned are actually not defective but working normally "with no discernible effect".
But see how the story is spin as that the chips are being actually defective in just a few lines down.
Which means the chips concerned are actually not defective but working normally "with no discernible effect".
But see how the story is spin as that the chips are being actually defective in just a few lines down.
Equation
Lieutenant General
Most of it went into Medicaid and Medicare and bailing out the "too big to fail" banks.
Mr T
Senior Member
When you say "the Company", are you referring to a US company or a Chinese company that made the counterfeit parts? The Chinese companies that made the fake parts are certainly responsible. But if their goods were purchased in good faith by people who thought they were legitimate, I don't see how those purchasers were to blame. As Senator McCain said, these goods can get passed through many hands before they get to the purchaser. It's not possible to inspect every microchip that you buy being manufactured.
As for "China", that depends on whether tighter regulations and enforcement are required to reduce the amount of counterfeit goods produced in China. I'm sure there is more that China can do in that department.
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The Chinese company probably made these parts in good faith. They are not responsible for what their US buyers do with them. Perhaps they don't even know the first US buyer. There can be no doubt that the US company incorporating the parts into some device is responsible for ensuring that the parts used are up to specification.
vesicles
Colonel
Counterfeiting has always existed. China should be blamed for not having a good enough regulation, while the US companies may not get away unscathed since it always looks kinda dumb to be duped by someone else. As the companies supplying for the world's most elite military, these US companies look kinda dumb IF they honestly have been duped. In reality, I think these companies looked for cheap products so that they could make more profit. So in a sense, they got what they ask for. Greediness is the number one prerequisite to get conned.
Another thing. Why is the US military using chips made in China knowingly? As I understand it correctly, chips are brains of these high-tech equipments, China could easily mess with the chips so that they might fail in a crucial time of operation, like in war. These things should be supplied by the most trusted parties, definitely made in America. Parts made in any foreign country should be out of question.