China's Westward One Belt One Road Strategy

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    Rather China could one day send her large force of peaceful development to Syria. Once with this stupid war is over and the country is more stable can the fruit of economic development has a chance to bear fruit.
     
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    Those ISIS and freedom fighters are troubles supported by Turkey and you know who.

    China now has less worrying now trade war has started and may need its military to advance it's economic interests
     
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    True, but even ISIS are running out of both money and fresh warm bodies for cannon fodder fighting for their cause.
     
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    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.pr...and-the-u-s-navy-may-abandon-israel-1.6470527

    "China will operate Haifa port, near Israel's alleged nuclear-armed submarines, and it seems no one in Israel thought about the strategic ramifications"

    Okay strike me down with dumbfoundness, but this one completely blind sided me. I had always known that Israel had relations with China. But I never expected them to do something of this magnitude.
    This singular act is going to send shockwaves across the geopolitical spectrum. On the surface, a 25 year lease on a civilian port may seem innocent enough. But lob in the fact that the nation in question is one of the few that had confirmed but not declared nuclear weapons, alongside with one of the most prickliest foreign relations in the immediate area as well as being perhaps the biggest "yes man" state on US foreign policy and one has to imagine what was going on in the heads of those who were making the decisions.
    This mean that China is taking another step close to plunging itself into the depths of Middle Eastern politics for good or ill. How will it juggle the interests of both Iran and Israel, the most reactive (explosively) relations in the area, will be a topic worth watching.
     
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    Many of China's long term strategic interests involve the middle east. For one it would like to keep radical Islam at bay or removed from Earth altogether in favour of the Islam that the CCP considers more "reasonable" like Shia dominant Iran. A good reason for this is the fear of separatist movements gathering momentum in western China. Bolstering Han-minority relations and treating the nation and those regions as ethnically homogenous is important while working on pushing post-ethnic nationality, all before radical Islam spreads throughout China, if it does.

    Other considerations are for trade routes not being disturbed by warfare or instability. Chinese leaders also expect to secure energy sourcing routes if conflicts break out. Energy dependence is the other key consideration.

    Israeli leaders are perhaps the only other group that seems to overtly plan for the EXTREME long term. We can speculate on Israeli strategy for China and vice versa, but it's really early days to attempt an understanding of why something like this decision was made. Any claims will be fraught with possible myopia.
     
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    related to the most recent posts here is (dated
    Sep 17, 2018, 11:15 AM)
    China, the Port of Haifa and Mideast Peace https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/china-the-port-of-haifa-and-mideast-peace/
     
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    LOL I add to what I posted right above it's a peculiar story which started some time ago: Mar 24, 2015
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    Chinese Company to Run New Haifa Port https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-chinese-group-to-run-haifa-port-1.5341712
    ... and the rest is behind paywall
     
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    It seems as if another spanner was thrown into PRC's plan;

    Dejavu ?
    Didn't this happen before in Malyasia?
    I wonder how much they will find in Mr. Yameen's bank account?
     
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    Sure didn't this happened in Sri Lanka too what happened since? Sri lanka crawl back to china with tin can at hand asking for more loan
    Malaysia is not going to cancel the project they might postponed it otherwise they have to pay 50 billion USd penalty
    A contract is a contract China is not going to give them a reprieve.The Malay always have entitlement privilege in their own land. So they think they can abrogate agreement one sided any time they want whatever the excuse is
    But that doesn't work that way. They can but pay penalty

    Mahathir want to abrogate water treaty with Singapore and demand 10X increase in the water rate But Singapore said NYET a deal is a deal
    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/s...ore-water-dispute-says-supply-deal-too-costly

    At one point former Singapore Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew said he was prepared to send troops to Malaysia if it tried to turn off the taps. Calls to Singapore's Ministry of Environment and Water Resources went unanswered on Sunday (June 24).
     
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