China's strategy in Korean peninsula

Phead128

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Kim Jong Un will likely offer a few locations for summit location: 1) Pyongyang, 2) Beijing, 3) DMZ.

Why Pyongyang? (from NK's perspective)

Pros: (from NK's perspective)
  1. Kim's physical security can be assured, safe environment (Very important, paranoid about assassination)
  2. Familiar and comfortable environment for negotiations, home-field advantage.
  3. Never traveled abroad in his official capacity for fear of military coup during absence
  4. Victorious 'Tributary visit' by POTUS confers legitimacy to Kim dynasty.
Cons (from Trump's perspective):
  1. Trump's physical security cannot be assured, unsafe environment (Very important)
  2. POTUS visit may be seen as tributary visit conferring prestige to North Korea.
  3. Minor, but 12 hour timezone difference will degrade Trump's mental sharpness.
Why Beijing? (from NK's perspective)

Pros: (from NK's perspective)
  1. Kim's physical security can be assured, safe environment (Very important)
  2. Beijing capital played host city to the 'Six-Party Talks' (六方会谈) involving US, CHN, RUS, JPN, and two KORs from 2003-2007.
  3. Familiar with Beijing capital during his tour with his
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    (essentially shoring Chinese support for power transition)
  4. As sign of deference, first meet 'Celestial Emperor' as first non-Korean foreign leader before 'Satan Dotard' as respect to Xi Jinping.
  5. Chinese ally can observe whether meeting is done in good faith (e.g. 'manage' US from reneging or negotiating out of bad faith from beginning)
Cons (from Trump's perspective):
  1. Give China most credibility as the dominant power in East Asia.
  2. Cannot take all credit for forcing NK to the table, must recognize China's role in the 'maximum pressure campaign'.
  3. Upstaged by a more powerful man (Xi Jinping)
Why DMZ? (from NK's perspective)

Pros: (from NK's perspective)
  1. Kim's physical security can be relatively assured, relatively safe environment (Very important)
  2. Still technically on "Korean soil" given DPRK claim to entire peninsula. Relatively close to home.
  3. Kim Jong Un will visit Moon Jae-in (SK Pres.) along DMZ so there is precedent.
  4. Removes optics of paying tributary mission to Beijing by hosting summit at "Korean territory"
Cons (from Trump's perspective)
  1. Trump's physical security is not guaranteed along DMZ (Very important)
  2. Cannot take credit as the first sitting POTUS to enter NK soil.
  3. Panmunjom location is very humble, not opulent like Trump is envisioning for a "historic event".
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If they are looking for a "Neutral" country like Switzerland or Sweden, then it's wrong thinking. The "Six-Party Talks" on denuclearization was hosted in Beijing capital, which was considered "neutral" grounds for US/SK/JPN and RUS/NK. "Six-Party Talks" was not hosted in Sweden or Switzerland, but hosted in Beijing, because those European nations are geopolitical irrelevant to East Asian politics.

Why not South Korea? There is a distinct disadvantage for Kim to negotiate with US-SK on fate of Korean peninsula while in South Korean territory and Kim Jong Un's physical security cannot be assured inside SK territory due to decapitation squad by SK.
 
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Beijing best venue for US-North Korean summit: Chinese observer

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Beijing's participation is necessary to highlight Beijing's role as the dominant power in East Asia, ensure negotiations are conducted in good faith by a powerful neutral third party, and ensure maximum security for Kim and Trump's personal safety.

You cannot talk 'security assurances' in East Asia without involving China.

If it ever happens, it should be in Beijing.
 

Lethe

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China is not a "neutral third party" in relation to North Korea. China very much has an interest in what happens on the Korean peninsula. China is crucial to the resolution of the Korean situation (not just the nuclear program), but this does not mean that it must host talks or act as a moderator. I think that Switzerland would be ideal, or failing that, Mongolia as a neutral party within the region. The DMZ would be my third choice.
 

AssassinsMace

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Kim Jong Un will not be flying across other countries or international air space. His father always took trains and that was only to Russia. Most likely it's going to be at the DMZ if it ever happens. That's the most ideal place for the worst case scenario. Any place else where something might go wrong, too far away from safety.
 

taxiya

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I won't be surprised if this did happen. Last time when his father took him to Beijing, it was only revealed afterwards.

And I read an article how it was a big coup and insult to China that Trump would meet Kim Jong Un before any leader in China...
Such kind of articles are just propaganda pieces to put a wedge between China and NK, similar ones go like "China should knock off Kim before U.S.".
 

taxiya

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The possible summit is a NK&US matter, separate from 6-party talks. I don't think Kim or Trump would like to have their bilateral summit being presided by Xi or any Chinese presence, even just the venue.

DMZ is too humble and informal for a historical event for either Kim or Trump. But it is a very equal ground for both sides, because it belongs to both side. Nobody is visiting the other side.

Sweden can be a good alternative as it has diplomatic relationship with both sides, and relatively neutral, politically and symbolically speaking. But Kim may feel uncomfortable to fly that far, not only concerning his safety abroad, but also too far from home that someone may have some funny ideas back home.

Putting all this together, I think DMZ is probably the best option. The buildings are big enough to be set to a higher standard.
 

taxiya

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Purported Kim's visit to Beijing. IF the video is taken on Monday as it is said so, it is almost certain to be of Kim because
  • the motorcade is in the standard of head of state/government
  • no other foreign head would visit with such "low" key, not low but invisible.
  • there is no announcement of other heads' visits around Monday or Tuesday.
 

taxiya

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Seems to be Monday afternoon in Beijing
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Video may be deleted soon IF it is deemed not allowed. I have downloaded it but seems mp4 file is not accepted by this site.
 
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