China's Space Program News Thread
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AssassinsMace
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This should be a lesson for China. The only reason why that cooperation may even be contemplated now is because the Chinese space program cannot be contained despite US efforts. What's the US's angle? Could be a lot of reasons. Maybe since Iran has the beginnings of a space program and the Iran nuclear deal has opened a door to speed up that program. China being isolated by the US has no obligation to help contain Iran's efforts. China shouldn't be so eager for cooperation just because it possibly might be offered now. China better expect more than just than just the superficial because you know the US is going to want a lot more than what's given back in return.
Blackstone
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That's shortsighted, since improved relations and cooperation in space benefits both countries.
Well, Tiangong and her successor is progressing along just fine, but the international space station is getting older, and they need rockets to resupply material and ferry people.
My guess is that by opening up now when it's clear that the Chinese is poised to have their space station sooner or later, gives a good handle to ask for reciprocal treatment later to the Chinese space station.
My guess is that by opening up now when it's clear that the Chinese is poised to have their space station sooner or later, gives a good handle to ask for reciprocal treatment later to the Chinese space station.
Blackstone
Brigadier
Your diatribe is almost entertaining, but doesn't address the notion both US and China gain from cooperation. Of course it's entirely possible in what passes for your mind US is setting a Space Cadet trap for China, and I would support your right to say that.
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You are new here so I will give you a pass...but Blackstone simply indicted that, "improved relations and cooperation in space benefits both countries."
This is a true statement and does not warrant the type of anti-American diatribe you responded with.
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You are new here so I will give you a pass...but Blackstone simply indicted that, "improved relations and cooperation in space benefits both countries."
This is a true statement and does not warrant the type of anti-American diatribe you responded with.
SD forum is not anti-American, anti-Chinese, anti-Russian, etc., etc. You get the point.
Do not post that stuff here. it is against the rules and invites nothing but argument, hard feeling, and leads to moderation, warnings and suspensions.
So, kindly tone that down and respond with civility and with respect. You will receive the same.
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
That's not short-sighted. They'll give only an inch while China would be expected to give a mile. Just establishing "cooperation" will be seen as a lot on the US's part and China will most likely be expected in return follow US policies especially if this is a case where the US is hedging against China cooperating with Iran in space. If they want China to restrict its cooperation with Iran, it better be more than just opening the front door for China.
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broadsword
Brigadier
For dialogue to transition to actual co-operation is still a long way off. Congress will not be moved when the US can still rely on Russia to deliver supplies and personnel to the ISS and China's space technology and developments are still several years behind. That is to say, payoff from the co-operation to the US is much less than to China.
Blackstone
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Except US knows China wouldn't go for unjust deals, and vice versa. So in the end, both sides must get enough out of any agreement to proceed, and that's no different than how most countries treat each other.
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