China's SCS Strategy Thread

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  1. Jura
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    now I read
    China opposes US provocation in its territorial waters: FM
    Xinhua| 2019-01-07 20:43:14 http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-01/07/c_137726565.htm

     
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    Yes LHL made such a statement. BUT LHL will NOT remain PM in 2 years time or even sooner, when the next GE will be held. We have two 4G Leaders: Mr Heng who is earmarked to be PM, and his deputy Mr Chan who will be Dy PM. If you are familiar with geo-politics, things can change and so do political and regional alignments for the better od the countries concerned. Look at what Donald Trump had done in a space of 2 years of his Presidency to the US? Look at the EU countries where changes had and are taking place with politics by the old guards are no longer respected. The problem with several Westerner commentators, is: they think they know........ BS I say. Learn from Asia - China & the other Confucianist countries (Japan, Korea, Vietnam and even Singapore with a Chinese majority).

    Anyway, as a multi-racial Singaporean, and perhaps also a good number of my compatriots (who like me are NOT government retirees - we are mostly private sector people), our comments of our country being a possible mediator is only our suggestion (NOT influenced by anyone or Govt or Party). We can only wish the Americans & Westerners good luck ....... IF you Americans can handle your current SHUT DOWN & NOT quarrel among yourselves (Trump, Republicans vs Democrats), maybe try and get an American or EU Mediator if you can .... doubt you can get any country can do it. Never say Never or treat Asians as people who bear grudges for even .... even China & Japan (long time enemies) are now trying their level best to get along for mutual trade & investments in their respective countries. NO interference wanted especially for those who have "evil" intentions to destabilise Asia .....
     
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    Additional illustration that there are longstanding conflicting interpretations, as well as inconsistent applications of even the same interpretation of UNCLOS, not to mention various actions by various countries to get around it, including by the US, Japan, Australia, etc.

    https://thediplomat.com/2019/01/japan-slams-china-for-unauthorized-research-around-okinotori-island/
    https://amti.csis.org/will-others-respect-precedent-set-philippines-case/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/19/...ng-coral-to-keep-a-sea-claim-above-water.html
     
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    U.S., Britain conduct first joint drills in contested South China Sea

    Updated 12 hours ago https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ls-in-contested-south-china-sea-idUSKCN1PA0PV

     
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    "Pride goes before a fall. A haughty army (or any military service) will definitely lose in battle". .... One of the Chinese idioms/proverbs in relation to military affairs.
     
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    Yes.

    Just look at Trump.

    He is supremely confident in everything he decides.
    And most of this has absolutely no planning or rational decision making behind it.
     
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    Diplomacy, not belligerence, key to SCS peace. Best course for all involved parties, despite mischievous instigation from external party.

    https://news.mb.com.ph/2019/01/17/chinese-navy-vessels-arrive-in-manila-for-goodwill-visit/
    Chinese Navy vessels arrive in Manila for goodwill visit
    Updated January 17, 2019, 5:51 PM
    By Francis Wakefield

    The Chinese Naval Task Group consisting of a pair of Type-054A guided-missile frigates, Wu Hu (Hull 539) and Han Dan (Hull 579) and replenishment ship, Dong Ping Hu (Hull 960), arrived Thursday at Pier 15, South Harbor, Manila for a four-day goodwill visit until Monday, January 21, 2019.



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    Chinese guided-missile frigate Han Dan (Hull 579), guided- missile frigate Wu Hu (Hull 539) and replenishment ship Dong Ping Hu (Hull 960) are welcomed by Filipino-Chinese upon their arrival at the Pier 15, South Harbor Manila on Thursday, January 17, 2019 for a four-day goodwill visit in the country (ALI VICOY / MANILA BULLETIN)



    Captain Jonathan V. Zata, the Director of the Naval Public Affairs Office, said this is the second visit of China People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) ships since the incumbency of President Rodrigo Roa Duterte.

    The first visit took place last April 30, 2017 at Sasa Wharf in Davao City.

    At about 10 in the morning, Commodore Wilfredo F. Burgonio the Deputy Commander of the Philippine Fleet, the designated Flag Officer In Attendance of the Philippine Navy Chief, Vice Admiral Robert A Empedrad, accorded the visiting navy a welcome ceremony followed by a port briefing related to health and security aboard frigate WuHu.

    This was also witnessed by members of the Filipino-Chinese community in welcoming the Chinese Navy contingent.

    Rear Admiral Xu Haihua, Deputy Chief of Staff of North Sea Fleet, PLA Navy and the same time the Naval Task Group Commander, said in his speech that their visit has elevated the relationship between the Philippines and China.

    “We have elevated our relationship to one of comprehensive strategic cooperation, opening a new chapter for China-Philippine relationship. I believe that we come here with peace, friendship and a better vision of common development and shared prosperity,” he said.

    Meanwhile, Commo Burgonio said that the arrival of the Chinese Navy counterparts underscores the continuing efforts to further strengthen the relationship between our navies.

    “This will further enhance and sustain the promotion of peace, stability, and maritime cooperation through naval diplomacy,” he said.

    A courtesy call will be rendered on Friday to the Philippine Fleet Commander, Rear Adm. Danilo R. Rodelas, by Rear Adm. Xu Haihua and party. They will also call on the Flag Officer In Command, Vice Admiral Robert A Empedrad on January 19, 2019.

    Like their previous visits, the PLA Navy will engage in a series of confidence building activities with their PN counterparts such as goodwill games followed by a boodle fight.
     
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    Diplomacy - Confidence Building

    https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/01/23/1887504/philippine-navy-send-ship-chinese-fleet-review

    Philippine Navy to send ship for Chinese fleet review

    MANILA, Philippines — For the first time, the Philippine Navy will send a vessel to participate in the Chinese navy's fleet review in April. Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said sending navy ships would be part of confidence-building activities between the Philippines and China.

    Philippine Navy spokesperson Capt. Jonathan Zata said the country's participation in China's fleet review is in line with President Rodrigo Duterte's policy of engaging with other countries aside from traditional allies and strategic partners.

    "The Navy through its naval diplomacy role maintains good relations with other countries' navies while safeguarding our country's maritime interests," Zata said in a statement.

    This announcement comes as the PLA Navy concludes its four-day goodwill visit to Manila.

    Last Thursday, Chinese guided-missile frigates Wu Hu and Han Dan, as well as replenishment ship Dong Ping Hu, docked at Pier 15 in South Harbor.

    In November last year, the PhilippineNavy sent a contingent in the first maritime exercises between China and Association of Southeast Asian Nations member states.

    The Royal Singapore Navy and PLA Navy hosted the joint drills in Zhanjiang, China.

    — Patricia Lourdes Viray
     
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    Dolecivita ,,,, Correction - It was Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN) NOT "Royal" Singapore Navy. We do not have a King or Emperor ;) A Fleet Review is an important historical occasion for Navies, and it is good that the Philippine Navy will participate together with several other Navies (I am assuming) for this PLA-N important event in April 2019. I witnessed PLA-N participating with 30+ Navies during the RSN 50th Anniversary Parade on 15 May 2017, held at the "RSS Singapura Changi Naval Base". A memorable occasion (Photo below Singapore's President Tony Tan inspecting the various Naval Contingents during the Parade at the Base. The President's Fleet Review of warships from various Navies was held at sea off the Naval Base.
     

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