China's SCS Strategy Thread

Blackstone

Brigadier
It is full of white guys and gals thinking like him, even the minority ones are "white washed". I don't know where did you get the idea it is otherwise. My underlying point is that the cabinets are all part of the "good ole boys running the show like back in the ole days" type of people. Now as far as Trump getting criticized by the public and media (both liberal and conservative) that is his fault and no one else.o_O
You're far off base on Trump's Cabinet composing of white and "white washed" good ole boys/gals, and even a cursory look at them would show otherwise. The link I provided outlined Trump's Cabinet picks, and I'll list it again for your reference, and I suggest you actually read it.

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What does Donald Trump's Cabinet selection tells us? It shows a wide range of very accomplished and capable men and women who are mostly pro globalization and free trade. That's opposite of Trump's views and it's an open question how they rectify their own views while carrying out the President's anti-globalization policies. Some other contradictions with Trump are:
  • Most of the Cabinet nominees were pro-free trade, and many of them had extensive business dealings with countries on Trump's blacklist (it'd be interesting to see how they mesh with Trump's stated policies on globalism and free trade)
  • Unlike Trump, most of the nominees haven't resorted to xenophobic or race-baiting rhetoric for political purposes
  • Some nominees are part of the political establishment elites Trump railed against, and others are 'Wall Street fat cats' Trump claimed he despises
  • There's scant evidence any of the nominees are racists
  • Some of the nominees are/were neocons, exactly opposite of Trump
  • Some of the minority nominees are traditionally targets of 'good ole boys.' Gov. Nikki Haley was directly attacked by her election opponent for her Indian heritage
These are only a partial list of why Trump's Cabinet nominees/members are the opposite of your fact-challenged "good ole boys" and "white wash" charges.
 
RAND is very prestigious think tank and they have involve in planning and study of every war that US undertake, It is non profit organization and staffed by higly qualified researches and not journalist
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. Supported by who is who is US industry like GE,Wealthy foundation, US government contract. NO vestiges interest here
Their report goes to the highest echelon in the US official,government

All that is the very definition of vested interests. You can quote someone talking themselves up all day that is also the least reliable evaluation.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
All that is the very definition of vested interests. You can quote someone talking themselves up all day that is also the least reliable evaluation.

It is NON PROFIT org. Vested interest is LockMart, Boeing, General Dynamic
There is difference between someone from street talking and researcher with Phd working for august outfit like RAND talking. If they are good for nothing they be out of bussiness decades ago
I don't know if you know the difference. As I say you are free to dismiss anything that doesn't suit with your bias I am not forcing you but don't say fanboism to imply I did that
 
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It is NON PROFIT org. Vested interest is LockMart, Boeing, General Dynamic
There is difference between someone from street talking and researcher with Phd working for august outfit like RAND talking. If they are good for nothing they be out of bussiness decades ago
I don't know if you know the difference. As I say you are free to dismiss anything that doesn't suit with your bias I am not forcing you but don't say fanboism to imply I did that

OK so we disagree about this post.

I never accused you or this post specifically of fanboism. I just noted that fanboism is on the rise around this forum recently, there is pro-China, pro-US, pro-Western, and other all sorts of fanboism going on.
 

supercat

Major
Trump finally made the phone call to China and promised to honor the "one-china" policy.
Trump Tells Xi Jinping U.S. Will Honor ‘One China’ Policy

WASHINGTON — President Trump told President
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on Thursday evening that the United States would honor the “One China” policy, reversing his earlier expressions of doubt about the longtime diplomatic understanding and removing a major source of tension between the United States and China since shortly after he was elected.


In a statement, the White House said Mr. Trump and Mr. Xi “discussed numerous topics, and President Trump agreed, at the request of President Xi, to honor our One China policy.” It described the call as “extremely cordial” and said the leaders had invited each other to visit.

The concession was clearly designed to put an end to an extended chill in the relationship between China and the United States. Mr. Xi, stung by Mr. Trump’s
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with the president of Taiwan in December and his subsequent assertion that the United States might no longer abide by the One China policy, had not spoken to Mr. Trump since Nov. 14, the week after he was elected.


Administration officials concluded that Mr. Xi would take a call only if Mr. Trump publicly committed to upholding the 44-year-old policy, under which the United States recognized a single Chinese government in Beijing and severed its diplomatic ties with Taiwan.

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Trump, Changing Course on Taiwan, Gives China an Upper Hand

BEIJING — By backing down in a
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on his promise to review the status of Taiwan, President Trump may have averted a confrontation with America’s most powerful rival.


But in doing so, he handed
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a victory and sullied his reputation with its leader,
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, as a tough negotiator who ought to be feared, analysts said.


“Trump lost his first fight with Xi and he will be looked at as a paper tiger,” said Shi Yinhong, a professor of international relations at Renmin University of China, in Beijing, and an adviser to China’s State Council. “This will be interpreted in China as a great success, achieved by Xi’s approach of dealing with him.”

Mr. Trump’s reversal on Taiwan is likely to reinforce the views of those in China who see him as merely the latest American president to come into office talking tough on China, only to bend eventually to economic reality and adopt more cooperative policies. That could mean more difficult negotiations with Beijing on trade, North Korea and other issues.

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SanWenYu

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“Trump lost his first fight with Xi and he will be looked at as a paper tiger,” said Shi Yinhong, a professor of international relations at Renmin University of China, in Beijing, and an adviser to China’s State Council. “This will be interpreted in China as a great success, achieved by Xi’s approach of dealing with him.”
By emphasizing Shi's title of "adviser to the China's State Council", the author of this NYT article seems to be portraying Shi as representing of or related with the Chinese government. Feels like the author is not happy seeing Trump making good with Xi and trying to sow discord between the them?
 

Zool

Junior Member
By emphasizing Shi's title of "adviser to the China's State Council", the author of this NYT article seems to be portraying Shi as representing of or related with the Chinese government. Feels like the author is not happy seeing Trump making good with Xi and trying to sow discord between the them?

The media has been pretty consistently adversarial to any Chinese development and that was fully supported by the Obama Admins foreign policy. So talking up the 'Paper Tiger' line lets them hit two birds with one stone - They apply pressure for firmer action in future dealings with China, and get to take a swipe at Trump for supposedly looking weak. Its a win win for them. But who is really paying attention to what the media wants us to believe these days? lol
 
according to USNI News Manila Predicts Beijing Will Build Base On Scarborough Shoal
This week the Philippine defense secretary predicted China would start building an artificial island on the bones of Scarborough Shoal.

If unopposed, China would likely attempt to build an installation like the several bases Beijing has constructed in the Spratly Island chain to the south of Scarborough, Delfin Lorenzana said in a Tuesday interview with AFP.

“If we allow them, they will build,” he told the wire.
“That’s very, very disturbing. Very much (more) disturbing than Fiery Cross because this is so close to us.”

Unlike the other installations in the Spratlys, Scarborough is less than 200 miles from the main Philippine island of Luzon and within striking distance of several facilities that hosts rotational American forces. The Chinese have been in de facto control of the feature since 2012 and have intermittently patrolled the shoal with Chinese Coast Guard cutters and boats.

“That could be their strategy, to counter any superpower that would encroach on South China Sea because they believe South China Sea is – that’s like their lake to them – theirs,” Lorenzana said.
“They occupied three islands there, plus they are trying to get Scarborough. So to us that is unacceptable”.

According to the report, Lorenzana didn’t give a time frame to when the Chinese might make an attempt to rebuild the island. A U.S. defense official told USNI News on Thursday there was no evidence China was moving land reclamation assets into the region near Scarborough Shoal.

Still, there is concern that expansion of the shoal could include infrastructure to either project Chinese power close to the Philippines’ exclusive economic zone or an intelligence, surveillance reconnaissance (ISR) network that could route information on U.S. forces operating at local installations. The position of the Chinese at Scarborough prompted the government of former Philippine president Benigno Aquino to seek U.N. arbitration for the seizure, which invalidated many of China’s claims to the South China Sea.

“A modern Scarborough airfield with radar and other modern ISR facilities so close to Philippine bases where U.S. has been granted rotational access by the Philippine government possess obvious strategic issues,” retired Rear Adm. Mike McDevitt, a senior fellow with CNA in Arlington, Va., told USNI News on Thursday.

He said Lorenzana’s comments could be a trial balloon to gauge U.S. reaction in intervening if China made a move at Scarborough following Secretary of Defense James Mattis’ assurance to the Japanese that the U.S. would protect the Senkaku Islands under the existing mutual defense treaty.

“But by its actions last year, the Obama Administration gave every indication that it considered Scarborough as very important and by implication might be willing to change the ‘take no position’ policy when it came to Scarborough,” McDeviit said.
“Why not see if Washington would be willing to send the same deterrent signal regarding Scarborough?”
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solarz

Brigadier
according to USNI News Manila Predicts Beijing Will Build Base On Scarborough Shoal

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Honestly, I wouldn't put much stock in any predictions from PH. They have consistently demonstrated a tendency for willful blindness and inability to grasp the broader meaning if geopolitical maneuvers.

The threat of building on the Scarb shoal is an excellent diplomatic leverage. Actually building on the shoal will lose that leverage. China already has enough "real estate" in the area to accomplish its objectives, there is no real pressing motivation to develop the Scarb shoal.
 

joshuatree

Captain
Honestly, I wouldn't put much stock in any predictions from PH. They have consistently demonstrated a tendency for willful blindness and inability to grasp the broader meaning if geopolitical maneuvers.

The threat of building on the Scarb shoal is an excellent diplomatic leverage. Actually building on the shoal will lose that leverage. China already has enough "real estate" in the area to accomplish its objectives, there is no real pressing motivation to develop the Scarb shoal.

I see the prediction as more of the Philippine's SCS strategy of keeping Scarborough in the headlines.
 
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