China's SCS Strategy Thread

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    So I don't post often but I'm here a lot. I have a question for the group.

    Giving all that has been said here I think it's fair to say that tensions in the region are high, do you see China escalating tensions by interfering with FONPS in some way?

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    That's a loaded question. These so-called "freedom of navigation" ops are provocations in the first place. China does not hinder any navigation in the SCS, yet the US insists on sending war ships near or into Chinese claimed waters for no other purpose than to provoke a Chinese reaction.

    It would be highly disingenious to claim that any Chinese response to these provocations are an "escalation".
     
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    Fact of the matter is that any incident, involving any of the parties involved, would be an escalation of the situation including China. Therefore if the Chinese attempt to challenge a FON operation it would be an escalation of the situation.

    Now that we have the semantics straight, do you believe that China will take action against those operations at some point? My feeling is that this will be inevitable and be reminiscent of cold war shadowing operations I believe.
     
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    China has greatly escalated tensions in the SCS and elsewhere with their own "Island Building, the current FON-OPs are just an elevated response to assure other nations in the SCS that we DO NOT accept China's unwarranted escalation, nor do we accept China's claim to to these structures as legitimate legal settlement of "property rights"!

    The FON-OPs in and of themselves are a response to what the US government regards as an illegitimate "territorial grab??" to attempt to portray China as a victim is far more disingenuous??
     
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    They already do shadow US vessels sailing through the area.

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    Here's an ELINT ship shadowing the Stennis carrier group. USS Stockdale in the foreground.
     
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    Ok. I didn't realize that was already happening. Have they been aggressive like the Soviets used to be?
     
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    Nope. Just shadowing and war of words. No buzzing US ships with attack aircraft or ramming them with coast guard vessels.
     
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    Unwarranted escalation? Are you serious?

    Both Vietnam and Philippines began fortifying their SCS holdings decades before China started their reclamation. Even then, China did nothing until Hillary Clinton announced that the US was imposing itself into the dispute.


    I think a better question is, what are the legitimate responses a sovereign nation should take when a foreign nation flies bombers over their sovereign territory and sails warships near or into their territorial waters? Is self-defense an escalation?
     
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    Yes, indeed, I'm very happy that you just wrote that Japan should take actions whenever some stray PLAN ship end's up in their territorial waters around Ryukyu Islands chain and sink it! Together with US Navy of course!
     
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    Freedom of Navigation is authorized by the UN.

    Under the United Nations right of innocent passage

    Rather lengthy.

    The US Navy has been patrolling the Pacific since the end of WWII and will continue to do so.
     
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