China's SCS Strategy Thread

Blackstone

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This is a rather large publication… 88 pages long. It can be rather repetitive and at times I have wondered whether the author Babbage really knows China.

However some aspects provide food for thought with a big emphasis on intensifying the use of softpower in getting China to reverse her current policy in the SCS such as baring Chinese students from certain courses in western universitys. Exclude it from G7/ G20 stop using the yuans as a currency, etc etc



Countering China’s Adventurism in the South China Sea: Strategy Options for the Trump Administration
December 14, 2016
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I suspect Babbage's suggestions will work as well as Obama's response to the AIIB.
 
according to Jane's China begins commercial flights to another disputed South China Sea island
China has begun operating daily commercial flights, operated by Hainan Airlines, to the disputed Woody Island in the South China Sea, according to a report by Xinhua news agency on 22 December.

The island, which lies about 400 km off the cost of Vietnam, is claimed by both Beijing and Hanoi as part of their respective maritime territories. It is referred to as Yongxing Island in China and Phu Lam Island in Vietnam.

According to the Xinhua report, the airport facilities on Woody Island were completed in May 2016 and received certification for civilian use from the Chinese authorities in December.
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abc123

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It seems strange to me that China isn't trying to make some sort of alliance with Indonesia about SCS but in general too? After all, Indonesia has several sea passes that enable Chinese ships to go around Strait of Malacca...
 
according to Military.com More Chinese Missiles Bound for Disputed Islands
China has sent more surface-to-air missiles from the mainland to the South China Sea, and the U.S. intelligence community anticipates these new missiles will eventually go to some of China's disputed territories for the first time, two U.S. officials tell Fox News.

The new missiles have been seen by American intelligence satellites on China's provincial island province of Hainan. While Hainan is not part the disputed islands, officials say this location is "only temporary" and anticipate the missiles will be deployed soon to the contested Spratly Islands or Woody Island.

The two missile systems seen on Hainan island are known as the CSA-6b and HQ-9. The CSA-6b is a combined close in missile system with a range of 10 miles also contains anti-aircraft guns. The longer range HQ-9 system has a range of 125 miles.

This latest deployment of Chinese military equipment comes days after the Chinese
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. The Pentagon accused a Chinese Navy ship of stealing the drone, over the objections of the American crew operating it in international waters to collect oceanographic data.

The escalation comes weeks after
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breaking decades long "one-China" protocol and angering Beijing.

China has deployed surface-to-air missiles to Woody Island in the South China Sea before, as Fox News first reported in February.

It has yet to deploy missiles to its seven man-made islands in the Spratly chain of islands. Weeks ago civilian satellite imagery obtained by a Washington, DC based think-tank showed gun emplacement on all the disputed islands, but not missiles.

Earlier this month, Fox News first reported China getting ready to deploy another missile defense system from a port in southeast China. China also flew a long-range bomber around the South China Sea for the first time since March 2015 and days after Mr. Trump's phone call with his Taiwan counterpart.

Days before President Trump's call, a pair of long-range H-6K bombers
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Ultra

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Israelis called Trump to weigh in ahead of UN Security Council vote
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"As the United States has long maintained, peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians will only come through direct negotiations between the parties, and not through the imposition of terms by the United Nations," Trump said. "This puts Israel in a very poor negotiating position and is extremely unfair to all Israelis."

I just can't help to see how much of hypocrit the United States of America is - supporting illegal Israeli land grab on land where lawful occupants living on it are forcefully evicted. Blocking UN condemnation on Israel with veto.

When China is building on island where no one living on it and as lawful claimant and the US condemns it and demands party negotiation when China only wants to negotiate DIRECTLY with each party.

I say China call on US's bullshit and double standard. If they allow Israeli to bully and land grab so brazenly they have no reason to even raise the question about SCS.
 

Blackstone

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Israelis called Trump to weigh in ahead of UN Security Council vote
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"As the United States has long maintained, peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians will only come through direct negotiations between the parties, and not through the imposition of terms by the United Nations," Trump said. "This puts Israel in a very poor negotiating position and is extremely unfair to all Israelis."

I just can't help to see how much of hypocrit the United States of America is - supporting illegal Israeli land grab on land where lawful occupants living on it are forcefully evicted. Blocking UN condemnation on Israel with veto.

When China is building on island where no one living on it and as lawful claimant and the US condemns it and demands party negotiation when China only wants to negotiate DIRECTLY with each party.

I say China call on US's bullshit and double standard. If they allow Israeli to bully and land grab so brazenly they have no reason to even raise the question about SCS.
Countries great and small have always mouthed high-sounding ideals/morals while doing whatever they could to pursue their interests. Hypocrisy is just part of the package, and the more powerful the country, they greater the ability to flaunt it.
 
Israelis called Trump to weigh in ahead of UN Security Council vote
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"As the United States has long maintained, peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians will only come through direct negotiations between the parties, and not through the imposition of terms by the United Nations," Trump said. "This puts Israel in a very poor negotiating position and is extremely unfair to all Israelis."

I just can't help to see how much of hypocrit the United States of America is - supporting illegal Israeli land grab on land where lawful occupants living on it are forcefully evicted. Blocking UN condemnation on Israel with veto.

When China is building on island where no one living on it and as lawful claimant and the US condemns it and demands party negotiation when China only wants to negotiate DIRECTLY with each party.

I say China call on US's bullshit and double standard. If they allow Israeli to bully and land grab so brazenly they have no reason to even raise the question about SCS.

First off this post simply does not belong in the China SCS Strategy thread.

Note that the Obama administration has been trying to shift the US away from such hypocrisy otherwise the US delegation would have vetoed the resolution. Note also that the resolution passed 14-0 which means everyone else on the UNSC voted for it.

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AssassinsMace

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Obama is simply getting his revenge on Israel for being a headache over the Iran deal. It's absurd how some are counting on Obama to pardon Edward Snowden. Obama was embarrassed by Snowden on his watch. Obama has shown he's vindictive. Obama was criticized for not giving any attention to the Israel/ Palestinian issue throughout his Presidency. Why? I read it was because he didn't see it being resolved during his term in office. Looking out for legacy? So he didn't bother. Now he gives attention?

Just like after seven years of making sure there was no international agreement on the environment because Obama didn't want that bad mark like was given to Bush at Kyoto where he was blamed when Congress failed to ratify what was agreed to. For seven years Obama proposed that all sacrifices had to made by developing countries while developed ones didn't have to do a thing assuring no agreement would ever be made. But his last year in office he decides to work at an agreement in Paris. It wasn't because he cared about the environment. It was because it would be the next President that gets blamed if Congress didn't ratify it or in this case Trump would just back out. But Obama could still claim he was a champion for the environment. That's why he waited until the last moment.
 
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