China's overland Silk Road and Maritime Silk Road Thread

Jeff Head

General
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Yeah. There's the camp in India which wants to build a win win relationship with China, and embrace projects like this, and then there's the camp which is frightened and/or wary of China and its intentions.

On the hand, I read at about the time Modi visited China this year, that he was in favour of the railway connection to India through Myanmar (I think it was Myanmar) I mentioned earlier.

He clearly trying to keep to the old non aligned ideology.
With the conflicts India has had with China...irrespective on where you place the blame...you can understand how some people in India do not want to build a superhighway and train line through the Himalayas into India.

They view those mountains as a protective shield and it will take a lot of negotiating, assurances, and trust for them to open the door to it.

I am not saying that they necessarily shouldn't...just pointing out what some of them view as the reality.
 

delft

Brigadier
With the conflicts India has had with China...irrespective on where you place the blame...you can understand how some people in India do not want to build a superhighway and train line through the Himalayas into India.

They view those mountains as a protective shield and it will take a lot of negotiating, assurances, and trust for them to open the door to it.

I am not saying that they necessarily shouldn't...just pointing out what some of them view as the reality.
Without going into the details of an India-China conflict, which is rightly out of order, elementary military considerations should lead to the conclusion that conquest of parts of India by China or of parts of Tibet by India has become ever more impractical for logistical reasons while political considerations also militate against such notions. Why then cannot South Block see that?
 

Jeff Head

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... elementary military considerations should lead to the conclusion that conquest of parts of India by China ... has become ever more impractical
As I said...it is not for me (or us) to decide whether they are justified in their feelings or not...but they do have them, and it is not altogether incomprehensible.

Whenever there is conflict, it takes time...sometimes a lot of time...to get over it. The Chinese people know this better than most.

As it is, as I said, China building spurs off of the SIlk Road down into different markets is also very understandable and the people who take advantage of it will have a lot of potential upside potential for it.
 

no_name

Colonel
Just recently there had been news of minor border incidents involving Indian army soldiers trying to move border markings. So it's probably true that there may be people in politics and the military who disagree with Modi's policy towards China.
 

taxiya

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Just recently there had been news of minor border incidents involving Indian army soldiers trying to move border markings. So it's probably true that there may be people in politics and the military who disagree with Modi's policy towards China.
I heard that this news is actually OLD news from last year? Just indian media's spin for sells.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
Why then cannot South Block see that?
Well if you try to ask a person in panic or extreme emotional state (like anger) why he is doing something, you will get your answer. ;)

I am a trained rescuer diver, one lesson is that victim in such state is not rational and has lost capability of logical thinking, to be more precisely, they don't think. It is better to keep distance from them if the rescuer is not able to physically restrain them or avoid being grabbed by them than trying to save them, that will make two dead divers than only one.

This is not to say that Indians as a whole have lost their mind. But they (the nation as a whole) do see themselves as a victim of the 1963 border war with China and being humiliated in front of the world, until that mindset is changed among absolute majority we have to accept the fact that they don't see how you see it regardless how reasonable your thought is.

One lesson that I learned from my own life (many failed experience :p) is that when dealing with people, what one say is less important (or not even matter) than what ones words sound like in other people's ears. Perception is more important.

Only time can change this. But hey, India won't and can't stop China to build roads around her, there are many countries in south Asia who want to benefit from the initiative. Indians may change their minds faster when they see the benefit from her neighbors.
 
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