China Geopolitical News Thread

[Blackstone]

The reason is fairly simple. In the Past century or so ever since the fall of the Qing Dynasty, we have tried almost every single political system that there is in the world. Countless political organisations emerged, and as soon as they emerge there were drown in history.

None worked. People suffered. Wars were fought, and we were invaded again and again.

This may sound cheesy or too much communist propaganda, but it is true that the only party that provided us food, shelter, peace, security, stability, growth, prosperity, and global status, and gave us hopes of a brighter future, is the CPC.

By global status I don't mean countries all like us or look up to us. To be disliked or hated or feared is a kind of status as well.

It's much better than to be ignored, humiliated, trashed, unnoticed, discriminated, or called the "Sick Man of East Asia".

Yes indeed.

 

[Blackstone]

You mean Communist governance with Chinese characteristics, considering the present form isn't true Communism.

I've already pointed that out numerous times in previous posts.

 

[Engineer]

One thing missing at the start in your faulted multi-step logic, people have opinion and people have similar opinion creates a party and people will always have different opinion on any certain subject therefore there will be more then one party.
A house of representatives working as the legislature arm of the government overseeing the executive arm is conformed by representatives of the people through general suffrage in which there will be more then one party talking to with one another to narrow the differences.
The only countries runned by a single party is considered either an authoritarian or totalitarian state and are only few in the present global community.

So you are essentially admitting China isn't ruled by a single party since CCP has different factions with differing opinions.

 

[Engineer]

Furthermore, even compared to countries like the US, the gap might not seem as huge as it appears. In the States many political activities are legalised and does not constitute corruption, whereas such activities will be seen and dealt with as cases of such.

For example, in large and mature democracies, lobbying and political contributions are an important part of politics and elections. In the US for example, the legislature has already removed the cap of political contributions.

However, if you ask any person on the road in China, "do you think it is a case of corruption if a politician accepts money from individuals and firms?", they will almost certainly tell you "yes". In fact it is such a case in Chinese laws.

Yeah, just call corruption something else. No more corruption. This reminds me of a story I've read, about how police chiefs in Japan keep murder rate low. Their solution is to categorise suspicious deaths as suicides, even when the bodies have bullet or stab wounds. You can't have murder if you don't call it a murder.

 

[SamuraiBlue]

You made some good points, SamuraiBlue, espacially about single party governance, but China's government and social structures can't be billed as lacking legitimacy and widespread support from the people. I read a poll earlier this year by a major and respected American opinion survey agency (may have been Pew or Gallup but I'm not 100% certain) that showed overwhelming support for CCP government in Beijing (over 70%), with about 60% support for Provincial government, and 40 to 50% for local government. Those numbers not only show great support for Communist governance, but also indicate majority of Chinese are relatively positive about China's current situation and future development.

Sorry but no survey agency besides the CCP authorized agency is going to gain permission to do such a survey and even if they did the numbers would be so cooked that it would lack any validity.

So you are essentially admitting China isn't ruled by a single party since CCP has different factions with differing opinions.

Hahaha, what are you smoking. LoL

 

[Engineer]

Hahaha, what are you smoking. LoL

How does that have any relation to China's political system? None whatsoever. I rest my case.

 

[broadsword]

Sorry but no survey agency besides the CCP authorized agency is going to gain permission to do such a survey and even if they did the numbers would be so cooked that it would lack any validity.

On what grounds?

 

[SamuraiBlue]

My feelings exactly.

 

[Engineer]

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My feelings exactly.

I guess that's too much logic for you to handle.

 

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