China Geopolitical News Thread

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Jeff Head

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This thread is meant for truly breaking Chinese Geopolitical news. New treaties, new initiatives, new dialog, summits, major geopolitical events, new leaders or governments, etc.

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Blackstone

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Reports out of Hong Kong highlight Communist Party's widespread suppression of free press with "'pressure on ad agencies, threats, and thugs used against independent media." Journalists report CCP's decade long extrajudicial oppression and censorship of the press as coordinated at high levels of government, and not limited to the domestic mass media.

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A local car dealer ran an advertisement with Epoch Times. Soon afterward, the headquarters of the car manufacture in the United States got a call from the local Chinese Consulate.

The incident happened 10 years ago, yet the effect lasts till today. It was this incident, the representative of one ad agency said, that convinced his company that working with Epoch Times will bring pressure from the Chinese Consulate.

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) wants to silence independent, Chinese-language media. Using pressure to cut off ad revenue is one key tactic used by the CCP, along with other, less subtle means.

The choke point for ad revenue is the ad agency, which has the ability to funnel advertisers to media outlets. There are half a dozen ad agencies in the United States that place advertisements for most major companies in the Chinese-language press.

Epoch Times has met with representatives from a number of these companies. During a recent meeting, the representative of one company summed up the general problem.

“Ok, let’s say I place my clients’ ads in your media,” the representative said. “What should I do when I receive phone calls from the Chinese government?”

A representative from another ad agency was even more direct.

“It’s very hard to be the first person,” he said, when asked to work with Epoch Times.

“My clients all have multinational businesses. Businesses in China,” he said. “It’s hard for me to recommend.”
Ads Pulled in Hong Kong

Epoch Times is not alone in having its ad revenue squeezed by pressure from the Chinese regime.

One week in November 2013 state-owned Chinese companies and other large companies suddenly stopped advertising in the independent Hong Kong newspaper AM730. The paper saw HK$17 million or around US$2 million in annual ad sales vanish, according to the paper’s founder, Mr. Shih Wing-ching.

“I think they are using the same tactic on all other media,” said Shih Wing-ching in a phone interview.

Around the same time that AM730 saw its ads suddenly get pulled, two big Hong Kong banks stopped advertising with the pro-democracy Hong Kong newspaper Apple Daily.

Mark Simon, a commercial director at Next Media, the parent company of Apple Daily, told The Wall Street Journal that HSBC and Standard Chartered pulled their ads under pressure from Beijing. The advertisers brought Apple Daily $3.6 million in 2013.

Jimmy Lai, the owner of Next Media, did not respond to requests to comment made by phone and email.
The Cost of Independence

Apple Daily has been a vocal supporter of democratic activists in Hong Kong.

According to Simon, the advertisers pulled out due to Next Media’s coverage of protests against mainland China’s increasing influence in Hong Kong.

AM730′s Shih believes that his paper earned Beijing’s animosity because “quite a lot of our columns attack the policies of mainland China, both in Hong Kong and in the mainland.”

“It’s not difficult to understand why they do this,” Shih said. “They try to influence you, and the media is extremely powerful.”

“They try to make people believe that if you’re not doing something they like, they can stop your advertising,” AM730′s Shih said.

John Tang, the CEO of Epoch Times knows why the Chinese regime attempts to pressure companies into not advertising with his paper.

“The Chinese Communist Party knows that we are a paper that will tell the truth about what is happening in China, and that frightens it,” Tang said.

“We were founded by people who had known repression in China,” Tang said. “We had experienced a media environment where the CCP controlled what people could know and wanted to bring honest reporting about China to the people of China and to the world.”

“The Chinese people trust us,” Tang said. “When the SARS outbreak happened, they knew Epoch Times would tell them what was really happening.”

In 2004 Epoch Times published an editorial series, “Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party,” that provides an uncensored history of the CCP. It has given birth to a movement to renounce any association with the Party. To date, 174 million people have done so.
Thugs Unleashed

Pulling ads is just one way the Chinese regime tries to silence independent media. More thuggish tactics are also employed.

In July 2013, AM 730′s Shih was attacked in his car. The month before, a car rammed the gate of the home of Apple Daily’s Jimmy Lai. In what could have been a scene from a Mafia movie, an axe and a knife were left behind. Three weeks before that, two men beat iSun Affairs publisher Chen Ping as he emerged from his office.

In February 2014, the liberal-leaning editor of the Chinese-language daily Ming Pao, Kevin Lau, was attacked by men with knives, leaving him in critical condition. Some Hong Kong observers said this was a typical Triad-type attack meant to send a message by maiming, not killing, the victim.

In late July, Home News, one of Hong Kong’s largest pro-democracy websites, pulled its entire archive of articles offline. All that was left was a single message from one of its founders, Tony Tsai, that vaguely referenced a growing environment of “political pressure” and “fear” in Hong Kong.

John Tang, Epoch Times CEO, said he has seen firsthand how the CCP tries to intimidate journalists.

Tang pointed out that a few months after Epoch Times started in 2000, a few dozen staff members were arrested in China. Some served prison terms of over 10 years. Some were severely tortured.

“Thugs have tried several times to break into our print shop in Hong Kong,” Tang said. “In 2006, thugs broke into the home of our IT director, held him at gun point, tied him up, and beat him pretty badly. All they took were his computers.”

“Our paper’s websites get attacked, and our reporters sometimes get death threats,” Tang said.
International Media Censors Itself

For decades the CCP has sought to dominate Chinese-language media outlets. Recently, English-language media outlets have begun to face some of the harsh choices that Epoch Times, AM730, and Apple Daily have faced.

Of course, international journalists have known for a long time that there were strict rules on how one could report on China. The CCP rewarded media outlets whose coverage pleased it, and punished those that didn’t.

But this was mostly done behind the scenes. In late 2013, the CCP’s efforts at intimidation became public.

In November 2013 the Chinese regime threatened to cut off Bloomberg’s financial terminals inside China over an investigative piece, and Bloomberg pulled the piece, according to the New York Times. In December 2013, reporters from Bloomberg and New York Times had their visas temporarily denied over critical news reports.

These efforts by the CCP to censor the coverage of the Chinese regime have sparked long-running debates outside China over whether a media outlet should sacrifice its principles in order to be able to operate inside China.

For AM730′s Shih, this is a question that has only one answer.

Shih said that maintaining his paper’s independence is not a matter of whether doing so is difficult or easy. It is a matter of principle. “I would rather close my company than be used by others,” Shih said.

Epoch Times John Tang said, “By reporting honestly on China, we are helping China move to a better future. Everyone should put aside their fears and support that.”
 

CyberMonk

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This site will no doubt loose memberships if Epoch Time is allowed as sources. Most people in this forum are already fed up all kind of anti China propaganda in the Western medias and now someone is using a source that's known for its one sided presentation of China.
 

broadsword

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Does it have anything with China's geopolitics? After all, Hong Kong belongs to China. But it is relevant to Sinophobia, I suppose.
 

Jeff Head

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All,

1) Is Blackstone's post about Chinese pressure on the press really "geo-political? If it was solely internal to the PRC, probably not. But this artcle does report actions by the Chinese government that attempt to influence offshore companies. That makes it geo.
2) The fact that the article was printed from a Hong Kong outlet, and that outlet is still able to operate and find advertisers, however, may seem to refute its own contention to some degree.
3) SD members are going to have to accept freedom of speech on these boards, even if they do not agree with it. Moderators are fair here and anything that is patently biased, unsourced, and clearly not journalistic, will be moderated.

This article is sourced and uses specific examples from named companies and sources. A hit piece almost always has un-named sources, without their actual names and locations.

Just the same, members on both sides need to present information from credible sources, that are stories about actual news and do so on all sides, presenting news and respecting one another.

Do not attack one another because yo do not like the news. Find and post actual news stories from established outlets, and then spare us the diatribes about it on both sides. We are all pretty much mature enough to read things, research it and arrive at our own conclusions.

This is how this thread must operate...rationally discussing issues with respect...not threatening to leave simply because one does not like the information.

All are freely here on SD in any case.

Many of us do not feel any political discussion should be on SD...but others have pressed for it and we are attempting to allow it as stated here in this thread.

Re-read the 1st post on this thread, and post accordingly.
 

CyberMonk

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No one threatens to leave because he doesn't 'like' the news. However, as a Sino centric forum, a source that its sole purpose of existence is to dig dirt on China should not be allowed.

If there's such a reasonable rule existed, then there's no need for moderators' unbiased ruling, perhaps.
 

Janiz

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No one threatens to leave because he doesn't 'like' the news. However, as a Sino centric forum, a source that its sole purpose of existence is to dig dirt on China should not be allowed.
There is CCTV and that's OK. And the purpose of this forum is by no means 'to dig dirt on China' but a crtical view should be allowed from anyone based on good sources.
Epoch Times is known to be a hate-Chicom paper. Hardly credible.
Maybe hate Chicom but not China itself. That's good there's something more than China Daily and Xinhua to get credible informations coming from China. It's not allowed in PRC so they have to that from abroad but the problems they report are existing.
 

Blackstone

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No one threatens to leave because he doesn't 'like' the news. However, as a Sino centric forum, a source that its sole purpose of existence is to dig dirt on China should not be allowed.

If there's such a reasonable rule existed, then there's no need for moderators' unbiased ruling, perhaps.

One person's "reasonable" rule maybe be arbitrary others. As you correctly pointed out, SD is a Sino-centric forum and not a Sino propaganda forum. That means news, analysis, opinions, arguments, and debate from all sides of China-related issues are open to review and retort, as long as posters follow forum rules. In addition, if you find errors of facts and/or reason with some posts, point them out for discussion and give testimony and evidence to the contrary. Personal attacks to silence debate are unacceptable and would be moderated by the Praetorian Guards. On the other hand, we all have bad days, and as long as they are few and far between, reasonable people should be able to deal with them.
 
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