China Flanker Thread II

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Frankly I am not surprised that the JAS-39C/D demonstrated superior SA in BVR and in the joint air defence exercises against the J-11A. There are three factors that I can think of that contributed to this outcome.

Firstly in a sensor shooter equation and who gets the first shot is dependent on two factors i.e. sensor and RCS. The Flanker is a big bird and that comes with it a bigger RCS. The Gripen's radar has a reported range of 80 kms against a 1m2 target but translated to the J-11A would be close to 160 kms. In contrast, the N001V/VE on board the J-11A would probably pick up a fighter size target like the J-39 around 145 kms. In other words, the J-39 would most likely have the first shot advantage.

Secondly, the Swedish is generally ahead of the pack in ECM among European nations. I would say that the J-39 has a superior ECM suite against the J-11A.

Finally, the crown jewel within the J-39 is its TIDLS data link. It allows a 4 ship formation to operate cooperatively to share sensor information in the overall battlespace. It was the front runner of the IFDL link as in the F-22 and the MADL link with the F-35. The link is directional and hence difficult to jam and is known to have good bandwidth and low latency. This allowed it to perform very well in multi formation setup and acquire superior SA because it could share and fuse information.
 

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Seem to be the core lessons-learned, from PLAAF perspective, from the 2015 China-Thai exercise.

Would someone be able to translate?

(Apology if this is the wrong way to ask for members' help)


One way to do this is to have Google Translate app on your smartphone, or a similar app. What those apps do is to let you take a photograph or scan the image and the app will translate the text.
 

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One way to do this is to have Google Translate app on your smartphone, or a similar app. What those apps do is to let you take a photograph or scan the image and the app will translate the text.

Thanks again.
 

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The J-10B has a PESA radar which is much better than a slotted planar array radar

More likely J-10B has an earlier generation of AESA, J-10C probably just has a better one. Institute 14 aka NRIET is the most likely provider of the radars, and they have previously provided the slotted array radar used on the J-10A, called Type 1473. Institute 14 appears to have bypassed any development of using parallel line feed PESA, which is the type used for aircraft, in favor of AESA in all applications. They are also responsible for the Type 346 AESA radars on the PLAN destroyers.
 

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Could it have something to do with the new SAC facility? All the components look correct in the cartoon except the radome colour looks off, black rather than light grey. The only intriguing aspect is the assembly line seemingly taking place in zero gravity. Definitely seems to hint at something to do with assembly. If nothing else, we get to see the shape of the AESA. These cartoons have provided real details in the past and I don't recall there being any photos of J-16's AESA in the past even though it's not a new fighter by any measure. Even J-10b's radar was leaked not long after it emerged.

BTW the original Chinese post hinted at space.
 
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ougoah

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English google translation of the post; For the country to cast the sword, our goal is the sea of stars!

Most Chinese posters seem to be struggling with interpreting this cartoon as well. Given the almost "official leak" nature of these cartoons in the past, I doubt it's actually suggesting what many of those Chinese posters are saying in jest.
 
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