China Flanker Thread II

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    What are the major changes from the russian to the chinese flanker ?
     
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    1) Which variant? J-11A/B, J-15, or J-16?
    2) In the case of J-11A: almost nothing.
    3) In the case of J-11B. Radar change from Cassegrain to slotted planar array. Higher use of composites and other advanced material. Second batch onward J-11Bs used domestically made WS-10 engines instead of AL-31Fs. J-11B also employs more advanced avionics and extensively used LCD displays to replace mechanical dials within the cockpit.
    4) In the case of J-15, pretty much the same changes as J-11B with the exception of domestic engine usage.
    5) In the case of J-16, radar change from Cassegrain to AESA radar and many of the same changes as J-11B.
     
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    Interesting, one of these Flankers - I assumes they are all J-16s - has a lighter coloured grey camo. Maybe it's the J-16H naval variant prototype?

    CFTE Xan-Yanliang - 20181212 - several Flanker +.jpg
     
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    Why are some of them yellow? Isn’t that testing color?
     
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    Yellow is the primer color I think. It basically means they haven't painted them yet.
     
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    High resolution of a recent flight training excercise of a combat fighter attached to an aviation brigade of the PLAAF Southern Theatre Command performs aerial maneuver on April 10, 2019.

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    J-11D close-up - Via LKJ86 " PDF

    Any hint from the big-shrips regarding this project?

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    I hope they beefed up the specs to make the J-11D more competitive with the Su-35.
    Now that the WS-10 engine with TVC is available it seems like a waste not to use it in a fighter like this.
     
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    Maybe there's still a team somewhere within SAC tasked with developing the J-11D attempt 2 using the WS-10 TVC and new FBW to see if they can match Su-35's performance. If they are successful, this final J-11D can use Chinese missiles and AESA, making it better integrated into PLAAF compared to the Su-35s which are more or less the lone wolves of PLAAF, with its own advantages in peacetime.
     
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    I somehow have a feeling J-11D lost out to J-16. And if we see it, it may be in the form of modernized existing J-11B airframes. But given that we don't really know much about J11D to begin with, anything if possible I guess. Though with FC31 based plane possibly/probably around the corner, we may not see another big variant of flanker made by SAC...
     
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