I had been wondering the same thing about the grey radome, i forgot to ask, so that is the J15? I can't see canards but they might be there....the engines look a little different than WS-10s....
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I had been wondering the same thing about the grey radome, i forgot to ask, so that is the J15? I can't see canards but they might be there....the engines look a little different than WS-10s....
AssassinsMace
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This is really confusing all these aircraft showing up at once.
So do the experts think those are carrier-capable landing gear? If not, is that a J-15 then? Yeah also the pic of it flying away is the only one that looks like it might have canards.
So do the experts think those are carrier-capable landing gear? If not, is that a J-15 then? Yeah also the pic of it flying away is the only one that looks like it might have canards.
The front landing gear at least doesn't seem to be double wheeled (which is usually compulsory for carrier landings, no?). The tail spike is definitely shorter.
Also, looking at pics of it taking off into the distance - is it just me or do the wings look... different?
maybe I'm seeing things... could be the angle of the shot.
The plane looks like it has some form of canard, on the picture showing it on its side I would say it looks similar to the PAK FA's movable LERX 0.o And what the heck is that grey stripe on the edge of the wings? Garrr so many questionsssss...
(The J-10B prototype had a grey radome, and apparently J-10B has AESA... maybe J-15 is planned to be equipped with AESA as well? But I've no idea of the colour of the radome has anything to do with the type of radar a plane uses >_>)
Also, looking at pics of it taking off into the distance - is it just me or do the wings look... different?
maybe I'm seeing things... could be the angle of the shot.The plane looks like it has some form of canard, on the picture showing it on its side I would say it looks similar to the PAK FA's movable LERX 0.o And what the heck is that grey stripe on the edge of the wings? Garrr so many questionsssss...
(The J-10B prototype had a grey radome, and apparently J-10B has AESA... maybe J-15 is planned to be equipped with AESA as well? But I've no idea of the colour of the radome has anything to do with the type of radar a plane uses >_>)
The front landing gear at least doesn't seem to be double wheeled (which is usually compulsory for carrier landings, no?). The tail spike is definitely shorter.
Also, looking at pics of it taking off into the distance - is it just me or do the wings look... different?
The plane looks like it has some form of canard, on the picture showing it on its side I would say it looks similar to the PAK FA's movable LERX 0.o And what the heck is that grey stripe on the edge of the wings? Garrr so many questionsssss...
(The J-10B prototype had a grey radome, and apparently J-10B has AESA... maybe J-15 is planned to be equipped with AESA as well? But I've no idea of the colour of the radome has anything to do with the type of radar a plane uses >_>)
The J-10B radar may be designed with steath in mind, allowing radar signals to pass through it in only one direction...maybe the J15 has reduced radar signiture....or it's just painted differently....that is for the experts to decide.
Also, the engines look different....something about them doesn't look right.
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Radar signal must be able to pass through in both directions in order for the radar to work.
Oops, i meant that it may be designed to block certain radar frequencies. I am not sure it has been a while since I read up on the subject. In order to reduce a plane's radar signature you make the radome such that it is opaque to an enemies radar but transparent to your own....that way the electronics inside don't register on your enemies radar.
I don't know if China has this technology or not, I was just speculating that might be the J-10B and J-15 have the same color radome. But the simplest answer is usually the correct one, so it is probably just painted differently. the J10/J11B radomes stick out like sore thumbs.
Tomcat7742
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And it's simply not feasable with the current technology. If it was, then you wouldn't see the US building an all new class of carriers with manned aircraft and an all new generation of manned fighters.
And I keep hearing that China has all this technology. Where is it? They seem to copy more weapons platforms then anything else. Look at the situation they are in with the Russians. Russia does not like selling aircraft to China anymore because of how China buys a couple then reverse engineers them. Look at the J-11, a copy of the Su-27.
Now let's get back on topic!
ffAnd it's simply not feasable with the current technology. If it was, then you wouldn't see the US building an all new class of carriers with manned aircraft and an all new generation of manned fighters.
And I keep hearing that China has all this technology. Where is it? They seem to copy more weapons platforms then anything else. Look at the situation they are in with the Russians. Russia does not like selling aircraft to China anymore because of how China buys a couple then reverse engineers them. Look at the J-11, a copy of the Su-27.
Now let's get back on topic!
IMHO, it seems to be an j-11b, perhabs an variant. However if it is j-15 i dunno.
Hendrik_2000
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The well regarded Huitong blog confirm it as J-15
A J-15 prototype was seen parked at the SAC airfield in May 2010 revealing its arresting hook retracted beneath the redesigned tail cone. J-15 is the first generation of Chinese shipborne fighter aircraft being developed by both 601 Institute and SAC for PLAN's first aircraft carrier. Initially there were rumors claiming that J-15 was a new semi-stealth design based on a similar but more advanced stealth design developed earlier by SAC/601 Institute to compete for the J-20 project (see below), but this design (J-19?) turned out to be a follow-on design which is in the early development stage at SAC . In order to save time and cut cost, the aircraft is now believed to be based on Russian Su-33 in terms of structural configuration and flight control system as well as domestic J-11B (see above) in terms of radar and weapon systems. Similar to Su-33, J-15 features folding wings, strengthened landing gears, an arresting hook, a pair of small canard foreplanes to improve its low speed handling and shortened tailcone to avoid tail-strike during high AoA landing. Some key shipborne aircraft technologies such as landing/navigational systems are believed to have been obtained from Russia and Ukraine. One Su-33 prototype (T-10K-3) was acquired from Ukraine around 2001 and has been studied extensively. J-15 is believed to share many common components with J-11B, such as a similar radar, the same glass cockpit as well as the improved WS-10 turbofan engine. It can also fire a variety of Chinese designed weapons, including PL-8, PL-12 AAMs and YJ-83K AShM. Overall J-15 is believed to be in the same class of American F/A-18C. The first prototype has been undergoing assembly at SAC since 2008. J-15 is expected first to be stationed onboard the Varyag aircraft carrier currently being fitted in Dalian. The first prototype made its maiden flight on August 31, 2009, powered by the domestic WS-10 turbofan engines. The latest rumor claimed that the first takeoff from a land based simulated ski-jump occurred on May 6, 2010.
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AssassinsMace
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I don't know how they can tell there's an arresting hook. It does look like there's something attached underneath the tailcone but it's too blurry to tell. Is Huitong deducing from these pics or does he have inside info? The only difference about the landing gear to me is they look longer than in other pics of the gear hanging down from Flankers and J-11Bs. They don't look any more sturdier... just longer. Is there a possibility this maybe a testbed?
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