China Coast Guard and Patrol vessels

delft

Brigadier
The big girl is sailing around...

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She's not sailing around, she's anchored. Just nitpicking.:)
And she is most impressive. Thanks.
 

AndrewS

Brigadier
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It would be interesting to know what level or standard of building the PRC is using for its new Coast Guard Cutters.

Are they commercial standards, low, medium or high combat standards?

Definitely not commercial standards.

China’s new generation of the 12,000 ton coast guard ship is designed to be used for law enforcement at sea and preventing foreign vessels from getting closer to our ship. The design of the main body of this vessel is up to military standard.

It has the power to smash into a vessel weighing more than 20,000 tons and will not cause any damage to itself when confronting a vessel weighing under 9000 tons. It can also destroy a 5000 ton ship and sink it to the sea floor.

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AndrewS

Brigadier
Registered Member
I'm thinking, do these monster Coast Guard ships share a common design with the Type-55?

They're about the same displacement, and would serve as good test beds to work out bugs with propulsion/layouts etc for the Type-55, which will have all the expensive armaments and sensors added.

So might they be the first of the Type-55 hulls, given that they're produced at Jiangnan, which we know is tasked with both Type-52D and Type-55 construction?

We've already seen the proven Type-56 design being using as the basis for a Coast Guard ship.

And we've also seen 2 smaller Coast Guard ships equipped with an Integrated Electric Power System, presumably to prove out the systems on a low-cost platform before they are installed in a high-cost warship (Frigate or Destroyer)

I'm reminded of the propulsion/electrical problems encountered by the LCS, Zumwalt and UK Type-45.

I don't recall hearing that any of them worked out these bugs on another platform, before they entered full-scale production.
 
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joshuatree

Captain
I'm thinking, do these monster Coast Guard ships share a common design with the Type-55?

They're about the same displacement, and would serve as good test beds to work out bugs with propulsion/layouts etc for the Type-55, which will have all the expensive armaments and sensors added.

So might they be the first of the Type-55 hulls, given that they're produced at Jiangnan, which we know is tasked with both Type-52D and Type-55 construction?

We've already seen the proven Type-56 design being using as the basis for a Coast Guard ship.

And we've also seen 2 smaller Coast Guard ships equipped with an Integrated Electric Power System, presumably to prove out the systems on a low-cost platform before they are installed in a high-cost warship (Frigate or Destroyer)

I'm reminded of the propulsion/electrical problems encountered by the LCS, Zumwalt and UK Type-45.

I don't recall hearing that any of them worked out these bugs on another platform, before they entered full-scale production.

If these large CG ships have IEPS, then it would be interesting indeed as they could provide real world experience and feedback that can be applied to a type 55 if the propulsion design has not been locked in yet or for even future flights.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I'm thinking, do these monster Coast Guard ships share a common design with the Type-55?

They're about the same displacement, and would serve as good test beds to work out bugs with propulsion/layouts etc for the Type-55, which will have all the expensive armaments and sensors added.

So might they be the first of the Type-55 hulls, given that they're produced at Jiangnan, which we know is tasked with both Type-52D and Type-55 construction?

We've already seen the proven Type-56 design being using as the basis for a Coast Guard ship.

And we've also seen 2 smaller Coast Guard ships equipped with an Integrated Electric Power System, presumably to prove out the systems on a low-cost platform before they are installed in a high-cost warship (Frigate or Destroyer)

I'm reminded of the propulsion/electrical problems encountered by the LCS, Zumwalt and UK Type-45.

I don't recall hearing that any of them worked out these bugs on another platform, before they entered full-scale production.

They may well be testing elements of the design, especially propulsion, and hull form hydrodynamics etc. But above the waterline, the coast guard cutters are far too structurally different to be of too much value as test beds for naval cruisers.
 

Max Demian

Junior Member
Registered Member
How much is actually known on the installed power-plant of the 3901? Comparing to some other coast guard cutters, the funnel on this ship appears conspicuously large. Could some inferences be made on the type of power plant from this?
 

delft

Brigadier
Would have been hilarious if they actually built her with a battering ram. :p
She has a bulbous bow as do most ships of her size. You cannot see on the outside if that is built strong enough to be used as a ram but the text we just read does suggest it. The second photo in #792 shows that the bulb is not large, not to be compared with the sometimes truly huge rams of the late 19th century so in case she gets into a collision with another ship her bow will be severely dented. So even if she is strong enough for collisions she is not demonstrative about it.
 
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Blitzo

Lieutenant General
Staff member
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I'm thinking, do these monster Coast Guard ships share a common design with the Type-55?

They're about the same displacement, and would serve as good test beds to work out bugs with propulsion/layouts etc for the Type-55, which will have all the expensive armaments and sensors added.

So might they be the first of the Type-55 hulls, given that they're produced at Jiangnan, which we know is tasked with both Type-52D and Type-55 construction?

We've already seen the proven Type-56 design being using as the basis for a Coast Guard ship.

And we've also seen 2 smaller Coast Guard ships equipped with an Integrated Electric Power System, presumably to prove out the systems on a low-cost platform before they are installed in a high-cost warship (Frigate or Destroyer)

I'm reminded of the propulsion/electrical problems encountered by the LCS, Zumwalt and UK Type-45.

I don't recall hearing that any of them worked out these bugs on another platform, before they entered full-scale production.

The 3901 and 2901 cutters do not share much if anything in similar to the 055 class, from what I have heard.

However, I think there is a separate single unit class of 10k ton weight cutter for the former MSA or CMS part (now part of CCG) that will be built, which will have a similar hullform to the 055 class similar to what you have suggested.

But 301 and 2901 do not seem to have any meaningful relationship with the 055 class.
 
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