China Buys Tu-22MB Bomber Production Line from Russia

leibowitz

Junior Member
I tend to agree...but with Aviation News running with it, and with the story being about buying the entire production line and the technology transfer...it is a completely different flavor than just buying a few of the aircraft. And this would be the TU-22M3, which began service in 1983 and was upgraded regularly thereafter, so the production line would include all of the latest enhancements for the aircraft the russians continue to fly today.

I believe the TU-22M, as probably upgraded by the PLAN, would be a heck of a standoff maritime aircraft for the PLAN. Very fast and able to employ varying sorts of advanced cruise missiles very quickly.

IMHO, much more capable of delivery and survival than the older, slower Badger rebuilds. The Backfire, even in the 80s, had some pretty good EM capabilities and upgrading those for this platform would make them all the more a threat.

It is capable of Mach 2, has a 1,500 mile radius range without refueling, has a rotary launcher in its bomb bay for six missiles and can carry up to four more on hard points on its wings, service altitude of 45,000 ft, and can (of course) also carry various bombs (both free fall dumb bombs as well as precision gudied smart munitions as well). Nothing to sneeze at particularly if China had all the equipment, technology and expertise to build their own.

Russia still has about 90 of these in its air force (as of 2010) and sixty of them in its naval services (also as of 2010).

As one poster said, it would be like a PLAN B1-B.

Anyhow, it is likely to prove false, but was worth posting because of the source and the nature of the story IMHO.

Time will tell.

In spite of those impressive characteristics, the Tu-22 has three major flaws which would likely consign it to become a second Sovremenny-class white elephant.

First, the Tu-22 is highly, highly vulnerable to interception, and it and the Tu-160 are the planes around which the USN has designed its entire anti-air suite. From a strategic standpoint, it's not really worth it to buy the capability your intended adversary has already spent billions building defenses against.

Second, the Tu-22 is not guaranteed to link well with the tightly linked, 21st-century, C4ISR model that the PLAN/PLAAF want to have. This could turn it into a one-off albatross that looks great on paper but is a pain in the ass for field commanders to use.

Third, the Tu-22 will be expensive and will dilute PLAAF defense budgets away from areas which they really should be focusing on, like UCAVs, 5th-gen avionics, AWACS, and better engines.

Finally, the capability the Tu-22 provides--1500 mi unrefuelled combat radius at supersonic speeds with 50 tons of standoff ordnance--can be done with a flight of J-20s. But that flight of J-20s has three main advantages over a Tu-22:

1) Survivability -- the J-20 is a stealth airframe with radar-reduction and much better maneuverability. It will be much better at punching through an F/A-18 CAP than a Tu-22M3 would.
2) Versatility -- those same J-20s that fly out on a shipping hunt can be re-armed for air superiority missions on the next sortie. The Tu-22 can't.
3) Infinitely better C4ISR -- the J-20 can link with home base, friendly AWACS, and surface ships in a much better fashion than the Tu-22 thanks to its indigenous software systems.

In many ways, the fact that CAC is building the J-20 means China doesn't need the Backfire. Now, the Blackjack, with its 8000 mile range, is another story, but I highly, highly, highly doubt Russia would ever sell one of them.
 

Navigator

New Member
It's old rumours, for example it's from 2010

China has decided to start production of their own indigenous version of the Tu-22M3 bomber under a 1.5 billion dollar agreement with Russia. A total of 36 planes will be produced, which will use extensive Chinese design and technology. The first batch will be produced in 2011.
 

kyanges

Junior Member
It's old rumours, for example it's from 2010

It seems a new one rumor appears for any big ticket item that foreign sources believe China needs, based on what they believe China wants to do, which everyone knows is to beat everyone else up.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Saw this today. What do you think? Another red-herring story? Or the real thing?

First I had heard about the PRC already having six of them. Anyone else hear of this?

The TU-22M is a very dangerous weapons system to this day. The US used the F-14 and Phoenix Missile to counter for carriers. The F/A-18F and the latest AMRAAM missiles have the same capability.

The Russians were prepared to deploy one or two regiments of these aircraft against each carrier. Will China build that many?

Interesting development if true.

Jeff obsouly posted this article with a note of skepticism.

Well now.. we've all seen the articles about this same aircraft over the last few years..not a single aircraft has come to fruition. This reminds me of the stores of the Russian carrier program producing 6 carriers . Construction was to start this year and the first ship was to be in service by 2020. Now the Russian state the construction will start on 2020...

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So is this story about the Tu-22MB Bomber real or a re-hash of an old story? Before we totally dismiss this story lets give other news sources the opportunity to verify or deny this story.
 

siegecrossbow

General
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This is probably the second most frequent bogus military purchase story involving China and Russia. Su-35 takes the crown.
 
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