China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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  1. Rachmaninov
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    Whoa, I think this is out of bounds for SDF...!
     
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    In response to FON at Taiwan straits
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...killer-df-26-ballistic-missile-clear#comments

    China has revealed footage of its next-generation Dongfeng-26 ballistic missile showing improved stability and accuracy, a move analysts say aims to send a message to the United States about its military strength.

    Footage of the missile was released for the first time in a report on state broadcaster CCTV, amid intensifying military rivalry between China and the US.

    Four fin-like flight control surfaces are seen around the missile nose in the report on an exercise in northwest China. The People’s Liberation Army Rocket Force launched at least one DF-26 missile during the drill.

    Military analysts said the fin-like flight control surfaces provided better stability for the missile as it neared a moving target, such as a US aircraft carrier.

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    The intermediate-range ballistic missile is also known as the “Guam killer” for its range – 3,000km to 5,741km (1,864 to 3,567 miles) – that puts the US island in the western Pacific within striking distance.

    It could be used in nuclear, conventional and anti-ship strikes, meaning China could use it to attack US aircraft carriers and naval bases in the Asia-Pacific region.

    Chinese army now makes up less than half of PLA’s strength as military aims to transform itself into modern fighting force
    China’s defence ministry in April confirmed the DF-26 had been put into service with the Rocket Force.

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    Adam Ni, a China researcher at Macquarie University in Sydney, said the latest exercise sent “a clear message to the US about China’s growing missile capability, and that it can hold at risk US strategic assets, such as carriers and bases”.

    “It’s an attempt to reinforce the notion that the PLA has the capability to sink US carriers and inflict unacceptable damage on American forces,” Ni said.

    “Within the context of increasing strategic competition and tension between the two countries, the latest drills are just another signal to the US about the prevails of escalation, including by intervening militarily in support of Taiwan against China … We are likely to see more [of these drills] if bilateral relations worsen.”

    Footage of the exercise was released just one week after US Admiral John Richardson in Tokyo said the US Navy had not ruled out sending an aircraft carrier through the Taiwan Strait, despite China’s military technology advances posing a greater threat to its warships than ever before.

    Military tension between the two countries is escalating, with the US sending two warships through the strait on Thursday, and Taiwan saying multiple PLA military jets had also flown near the southern tip of the self-ruled island to the western Pacific for a drill that day.

    James Floyd Downes, a lecturer in comparative politics at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, said releasing footage of the missile drill was a calculated political act.

    “Beijing is demonstrating its military capacity and overall strength in power,” Downes said. “This is arguably a strategic power play and a sign to Washington and the Trump administration of its underlying military power … a key strategy taken directly from the realist playbook in international relations.”

    US says China’s growing military might is part of a ‘diverse’ threat to its national security
    Zhang Baohui, a director of the Centre for Asian Pacific Studies at Lingnan University in Hong Kong, said the drill was about deterrence amid rising tensions in the region.

    “China has repeatedly stated that the missile can hit moving targets like ships,” Zhang said. “While the overall probability of war between the US and China remains very low, Beijing is nonetheless concerned by recent changes in the dynamics of Sino-US relations. The public debut of the DF-26 could mean enhancing its general deterrence.”
     
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    Here is another one Sputnik with video of the launch. So there are 2 active regiment one in south and one in the north
    https://sputniknews.com/military/201901281071880244-china-test-fire-new-missile/
    WATCH China Test Launch 'Carrier Killer' Missile Amid Strait Tensions With US
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    Earlier, the Chinese military mobilised its DF-26 nuclear-capable intermediate-range anti-ship missiles, also known as 'Guam Killers' for their ability to strike American military installations on the Pacific island, amid ongoing US 'freedom of navigation' missions in the South China Sea and through the Taiwan Strait.

    Chinese state television has released a video showing the People's Liberation Army Rocket Force firing a DF-26 intermediate-range missile.


    The video, filmed during a live-fire exercise somewhere in Northwest China, showed one of two DF-26 missiles which were launched last week.

    Speaking to China's Global Times newspaper, military observer and former Rocket Force veteran Song Zhongping said that the DF-26 is capable of altering its flight trajectory, and has guidance systems enabling it to hit a slow-moving aircraft carrier. The rocket's double-cone structure also provides it with stealth capabilities, making it more difficult to intercept, he said.

    "An information network connected to the warhead, which possibly includes satellites, ground and naval radar in addition to radar on the missile itself, will constantly update the location of a moving target, informing flight control where to guide the missile," a second, anonymous military expert told the newspaper.



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    US Navy Vessels Sail Through Taiwan Strait Despite Beijing's Past Warnings
    The PLA's Rocket Force commissioned its first batch of 22 DF-26 mobile missile systems last April. Earlier this month, Chinese media reported that the military had mobilised the missiles in its remote northwest plateau, presumably in response to a US guided missile destroyer's 'freedom of navigation' passage through the Paracel/Xisha Islands, which Beijing said amounted to trespassing in its territorial waters.


    China-US tensions escalated again last week, after the US Navy sailed two vessels through the Taiwan Strait. Beijing has repeatedly called on Washington to stay clear of the strait over concerns that the US was providing military support to Taiwan. Although the island has been a self-governing entity since the end of the Chinese Civil War in 1949, Beijing considers it an integral part of China.
     
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    One in the north
    #China #PLARF #DF26 new garrison near #Alxa looks more like a permanent rocket force training facility. Covers complete #ArabianSea #BayofBengal & parts of #IOR. With innumerous launch pads, it would be difficult to track real deployments.

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    Another one in the south
    Covers entire #India & #IOR. Makes detection&interception difficult especially in boost phase. Read more:

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    why americans doesn't believe that with a radar guided marv it's possible to hit a carrier? I think that the rapid flight time of a intermediate range ballistic missile like df-26 ( i think about 10-15 minutes) mean that they also don't need to update mid course on the position of the carrier. In other words: a satellite detect the carrier, you fire the missile at that coordinates and the active radar of the marv do the rest. A carrier at 30 knots can move at maximum 15 20 km from a certain point in 10-15 minutes. What is the flaw in my logic?
     
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    i never truly figured out those distance maps
    do countries lob nukes over uninvolved countries or does China and US say have to find paths that dont involve them
     
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    Ballistic Missiles leave the atmosphere so it's usually a moot point as to whether any national sovereignty is impinged!
     
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    but china is someway protected by russia. Just because us icbms must reentry over russia to hit china. Are minuteman missiles in range to strike china? And trident II if launched by port? How many of them?
     
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    The thing to consider is that the likes of Russia will not be waiting till impact to see if those launched nukes are aimed at them before launching their own ‘retaliatory’ strikes.

    Something else to consider is that even a ‘modest’ nuclear exchange of a few hundred tactical nukes would probably be enough to bring about extinction level events across most of the globe.

    If a nuclear power is beating up on a non-nuclear power with nukes, there can be ‘restraint’ in how many weapons get launched. When two nuclear armed powers start lobbing nukes at each other, it’s all but inevitable that things will rapidly escalate out of all control and both end up lobbing all they can at each other.

    As such, any talk of nuclear war is pretty pointless, as you pretty much always arrive at the same conclusion of the end of the human race as we know it.
     
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