China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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  1. supercat
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    HGV will certainly mitigate the problem, but it cannot eliminate it without sufficient quantity. As for the first strike policy of the U.S., I'm not sure that's the case as you stated. Please see "The Rise of U.S. Nuclear Primacy" in the previous post. Remember the U.S. is the only one that actually used nuclear weapons.
     
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    Guess what? tillerson just calls for blockage of man-made island.
    China official paper in response , calls for war against US.

    Are you ready??
    Wake up, smell the coffee!
     
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    Sigh, you are so fixated upon this. What "China official paper", Global Times again? No that does not count. Didn't I tell you come back to me only when the People's Daily editorial changes tone?

    If you want to dance as the Global Times or Tillerson speak, well, that's your choice.
     
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    Global times represents China internal thinking. It's the mouth piece, it can says things it can't officially.

    Tillerson is ready for secretary of states.

    So, if you dismiss those two, where we can lean on??

    You??
     
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    I will have to ignore you for your aggression and rudeness.
     
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    just great, nothing valuable added.
     
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    This is inaccurate. Hiroshima and Nagasaki aside, the United States has a long record of attempting to coerce non-nuclear states by threatening the use of its nuclear weapons, beginning with the Soviet Union in 1947 to induce Soviet forces to withdraw from Iran, and including China in the Korean War.
     
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    Nuclear Weapons and Coercive Diplomacy is a very recent book on the subject.

    Google Books has some pages available to preview, including a table of unsuccessful attempts at nuclear coercion. The table lists eleven such attempts by the United States against various nations, three attempts by China (against India and Vietnam), and three against China (by the Soviet Union). Unfortunately the table of successful attempts at coercion is not included in the Google Books preview.
     
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    In general, Tillerson and Trump both have huge mouths but limited ability. They have to talk tough because the people who elected them, mainly angry white males, want to hear the tough talk. But if Tillerson ran the "plan" by the USN, and other people familiar with military matters, they'd likely tell him that it can't be done or attempting to do so would bring a huge chance of nuclear war. He's also probably hoping to shock the Chinese and stop the island-building by having them think, "He's talking about blocking our access to our islands! We need to concentrate our resources on making those words empty; forget about building more!" Tillerson's a businessman and it's a basic business tactic ingrained into his thinking. You want a $1 million but if you tell it like it is, they might offer you $750K; at least they want to get you lower than your asking price. So you tell them you want $2 mill. When they laugh at you and tell you there's no way you're getting more than half, you accept the offer, and the other side thinks they did a number on you, cutting your asking price in half.

    In any case, I am more in favor now of an increased nuclear build-up by China, not to US/Russian proportions, but certainly 2-2.5K is reasonable. Let's get those DF-ZF tests hastened, though, and build those along with DF-41. I think we shouldn't expend resources on any lesser models.
     
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    I believe China already have more than 1K nukes, perhaps not in "ready to fire" status yet .... but can be put into the status in no time
     
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