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Matthew Fisher: Canadian warships shadowed by Chinese navy in South China Sea
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‘It was a bit of a cat-and-mouse game. They claim something that the world does not agree with. … They are very active these days,’ said the Chief Petty Officer
For the first time that Canadian sailors can remember, Chinese warships have shadowed ships from the Royal Canadian Navy.

“We have interacted with Chinese ships,” was how HMCS Winnipeg’s captain Cdr. Jeff Hutchison put it.

A pair of People’s Liberation Army Navy frigates came within three nautical miles of HMCS Winnipeg during a freedom-of-passage exercise the Canadian frigate conducted with U.S., Australian and Japanese warships late last month in the hotly contested South China Sea. The ships were shadowed for about 36 hours, Hutchison said.

“Whenever we are near an American ship the Chinese are there,” said the Winnipeg’s coxswain (or senior enlisted sailor), Chief Petty Officer 1st Class Sylvain Jacquemot. “There is not an American ship in the South China Sea that does not get shadowed by a Chinese ship.

“They were three miles away but there was not a level of hostility. We were both practising freedom of navigation. It was a bit of a cat-and-mouse game. They claim something that the world does not agree with. … They are very active these days.”

China, South Korea and Japan are at loggerheads over claims to islands in the East China Sea, where Taiwan also has claims. But there even more disputed is the South China Sea, most of which China claims. Criss-crossed by cargo vessels, the sea has rich fishing grounds and large deposits of oil and natural gas. The waters have become a potential flashpoint since Beijing built a series of artificial islands atop coral reefs and sand bars there, with fighter jet-capable airfields and missiles now located there.

This expansion has created friction with Vietnam, Taiwan, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia, which have overlapping claims to the same tiny atolls and outcroppings. It has also angered Washington. The U.S. regards the South China Sea as international waters and not a Chinese lake, although some security experts believe that that is what it will eventually become.

As China is a major regional power in Asia it was to be expected that it would take an interest in the presence of a Canadian warship in the western Pacific, said the Winnipeg’s executive officer, Lt. Cdr. Landon Creasy.

“This was the first time to see them as real platforms” in 26 years in the navy, Creasy said, adding that “from a professional interest point of view, that was the highlight of the trip for me.

“We spoke with them two or three times by radio. They were exceptionally professional and polite.”

The proximity of the Chinese frigates was similar to what happened three years ago in the Baltic Sea when Russian warships followed HMCS Fredericton, on which prime minister Stephen Harper was embarked at the time.

A few days after the encounter in the South China Sea, a Chinese intelligence-gathering ship bristling with antennae and other electronic gear monitored the Winnipeg’s movements in as it entered the East China Sea, where it conducted exercises with a South Korean warship.

Why had Canada sent warships through these contested waters? “Canada is a rule-of-law country. That is our stance on things,” Hutchison said. “There is a right to transit international waters.”

Even so, the Winnipeg was careful to do nothing that the Chinese military might have considered provocative.

“There was more than enough room to stay well clear of the Paracels and the Spratlys,” Hutchison said, referring to islands that are among the most heavily contested.

“Even if Canada were to recognize this claim (China) could only claim a 12-mile limit. We were 100 miles away.”

A couple of months ago, as part of the same deployment in the western Pacific, the Winnipeg and HMCS Ottawa came within 30 nautical miles of the Scarborough Shoals, far closer to the Philippines than China but occupied by the Chinese military. On that occasion, no Chinese vessels or aircraft came out to study them.

The Winnipeg and the Ottawa have one month left in what will be a five-month voyage before they return to British Columbia. In the case of the Winnipeg, which traveled a little further than the Ottawa, it has been an epic, 12-leg, 41,500-kilometre flag-waving odyssey. Port calls have included California, Hawaii, Guam, the Philippines, Malaysia, India, Sri Lanka, Singapore, South Korea and Japan. The Ottawa visited many of the same ports and also made a visit to Shanghai to take part in a fleet review with the Peoples Liberation Army Navy.

The the trip was a marathon training exercise, with young sailors seeking technical qualifications required for a career at seas. It saw multiple live-fire exercises with allied navies — a missile was fired off California — and crews from Canadian and allied ships practised sending boarding parties comprised of new Special Forces-like teams of sailors out in small boats to clamber aboard each other’s decks to simulate the boarding of ships carrying hostages or illegal cargoes. The concept of using reservists to provide force-protection during port visits was also proven during the voyage.

“Whether you are doing an exercise with Canadian and American ships off our coasts or with Japanese and Korean ships, we are spending that fuel, regardless,” said the Royal Canadian Navy’s commander, Vice-Admiral Ron Lloyd, who was in South Korea. “The bottom line is you take your fuel wherever you are. You are paying the same whether you are over here or back in Canadian waters.”

Hutchison added: “The number of sea days required to force-generate must be done somewhere. Ships have to spend days at sea to train sailors. If we operate here in Korea, there is an even greater value.”
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
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Moderator - World Affairs
now noticed (dated July 14, 2017)
Matthew Fisher: Canadian warships shadowed by Chinese navy in South China Sea
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‘It was a bit of a cat-and-mouse game. They claim something that the world does not agree with. … They are very active these days,’ said the Chief Petty Officer

My tax dollar at work
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
Ya.. What a waste.
Canada have no interests in SCS and we don't have the budget for this BS. All because the damn Liberals don't know how to run a country.

The Conservatives sent ships to the Black Sea. Do we have interest there?
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
The RCN shouldn't have done away with its Iroquois DDGs. They would still be very powerful AAW destroyers today had they been upgraded with newer radars (from Thales or Kelvin Hughes) and two quad-canister AShM launchers.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
How exactly pissing Russkies is in Canada's own interest?

The merit of partaking in NATO initiatives has more to do with showing solidarity with the US & Canada's commitment to the alliance rather than with provoking the Russians. Additionally, Russian bomber patrols near Canadian airspace has been a recurrent thing, so this wouldn't be the first time Canadian-Russian relations have been exposed to such "provocations".
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
The merit of partaking in NATO initiatives has more to do with showing solidarity with the US & Canada's commitment to the alliance rather than with provoking the Russians. Additionally, Russian bomber patrols near Canadian airspace has been a recurrent thing, so this wouldn't be the first time Canadian-Russian relations have been exposed to such "provocations".

Don't know about you, I paid a lot of tax and I rather not have them being used to provoke the Russkies
 
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