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Jeff Head

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Re: Aircraft Carriers II

If they lack the Escorts it's a target.,
But they do have effective escorts.

They have 12 very decent Halifax Frigates, all commissioned between 1992 and 1996. They were upgraded and modernized beginning in 2010 in a refit that extended their life and capabilities to 2030. They are decent escorts with good multi-role capabilities, including 16 ESSM anti-air missiles each in two eight cells Mk-48 VLS launchers which gives them credible medium range air defense, and eight Harpoon missiles for ASuW. They are also very decent ASW platforms. Two of them would provide decent escort coverage for a Mistral.

Now, the Iroquois DDGs are a different matter. They need to be replaced post haste and the Canadians do have a Destroyer Replacement program. It's called the Single Class Surface Combatant Project and is a part of the Canadian National Shipbuilding Procurement Strategy which was dated 2011. They plan to replace the Iroquois starting in the late teens, and then proceed and replace the Halifax as well by 2030. They intend to build fifteen of these vessels.

So there is an effective escort for the proposed acquisition now, and plans to modernize the entire force.

if they lack the Aircraft it's useless,
The Canadians have purchased fifteen CH-147F Chinooks. They started taking delivery of these two years ago. They are certainly capable of providing air assault capabilities off of a Mistral. In addition, they have now finally successfully completed trials with the Canadian Navy for the CH-148 Cyclones which have been so troubled. In June they finally signed a new contract with Sikorsky for delivery of more aircraft starting in 2015. I believe between those two, they could provide an effective helo wing for a Mistral.

if they lack the amphibious platforms it's useless.
I would presume, that if the Canadians were to get the Mistrals (either one or both) they would also procure the French connector amphibious vessels to go with it. It would make no sense to get one without the other.

And the Canadian Military lacks all three.
Well, they really only lack the amphibious connector vessels which they can buy from France that were specifically designed to work with the Mistral class. I believe they would.

But they do have FFGs that can escort such a vessel, and they do have helos that can operate off of them. My guess is that a purchase of a Mistral would also result in more Chinooks and probably more Cyclones.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Jeff in Naval matters I yield to you. And in one Of my comments I did bring up the Single class Combatant. And though yes they have the Cyclone and Chinook, they don't have any escorts or attack capacity. The Canadian Military's closest platform for that are Dual mounted Mini guns on a CH146 Griffon and adding a Ship to shore connector would also still be limited. Could they do it? yes but it would require the investment and I don't think there willing to make it. IF they were then as I see it there best bet would be to follow what I posted in post #116

If Canada really wants to get a Mistral Class LHA, Then they need to
  1. Add new Destroyers.
    the Canadian military already has requirements for a Single class Surface combatant based likely based on the
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  2. buy modern transport and dedicated attack choppers.
    the mission need is the light and medium classes given the fact there Griffons were supposed to be phased out by 2020 and the common training between the US and RCAF as well as favoring of Bell the UH1Y and AH1Z would be the best options. second option would be the UH60M and AH64E which has commonality with the CH148, Which could also be a option if configured for combat use. additionally if Canada goes forward with a F35 buy then a number of F35B's would be a prime option.
  3. procure LCAT or LCAC type connectors.
    the Engin de débarquement amphibie rapide (EDA-R) aka Landing Craft Catamaran or Landing Craft Air Cushion or Ship-to-Shore Connector
  4. buy a true Amphibious assault vehicle.
    AAV7A1 would be the prime option, secondary options are rare these days but potentially trying to get in on the USMC's ACV or the French Armoured Multirole Carrier optimizing the Coyote into a Amphibious platform have some options but limited. and there is also the ARISGATOR/VAL kit retrofit for the M113 vehicle family.
  5. buy Amphibious scout craft.
    lighter Amphibious vehicles to scout for landing and act as logistical platforms. Gibbs Amphibious vehicles are really perfect for this role.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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A vrai dire peu de paroles.
France to Canada: Buy Weapons From Us, Not From Americans
Nov. 9, 2014 - 04:11PM | By DAVID PUGLIESE |
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VICTORIA, BRITISH COLUMBIA — France, concerned that US firms have the inside track on billions of dollars worth of future naval contracts, is lobbying the Canadian government to consider all options for its new surface fleet.

French firms, including shipbuilder DCNS, want to pursue contracts for the Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) program, the future fleet that will replace the country’s destroyers and frigates.

Although a Canadian shipyard has already been selected to build the vessels, contracts to provide weapons, systems integration and warship design can be expected to be let in the future.

But French officials say they are concerned that US companies, particularly Lockheed Martin, already have the inside track. Lockheed Martin has said it is interested in handling weapons and systems integration for the CSC fleet and will pursue that contract if, and when, the Canadian government proceeds with that project.

“What we’re asking for is a fair and level playing field,” said one French industry executive. “We are concerned that is not what will happen.”

Lockheed has already been selected to handle systems integration for a new fleet of Arctic/offshore patrol ships being built for the Royal Canadian Navy by Irving Shipbuilding in Halifax. Irving is the firm that will also construct the CSC fleet.

French President François Hollande visited Canada Nov. 2-4 for the first time, noting that France is interested in playing a key role in Canada’s naval rebuilding plans. Hollande and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper also announced that the two countries had finalized a technical arrangement to establish a Franco-Canadian Defense Cooperation Council.

French industry sources say they are hoping the Canadian government will be open to non-US equipment and designs for the CSC as well as run an open competition for systems and weapons integration for the warships.

Canada hopes to build 15 CSCs that will form the backbone of the future Royal Canadian Navy and cost an estimated CAN $25 billion (US $24 billion). The weapon and systems integration for CSC is expected to make up a large part of that price tag.

The first CSC is expected to be delivered in 2023. The last ship will enter service in 2035.

The French say they are worried about the Navy’s reliance on US contractors and weapon systems, saying that will set the stage for a CSC fleet largely outfitted with American-made equipment.

They point to Canada’s decision in October to become involved in the development of Raytheon’s next generation Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM).

Canada’s Halifax-class frigates are already being modernized with the current version of the missile. But the next-generation ESSM would extend such a weapon system to at least 2030.

The European consortium MBDA was interested in the potential of providing missiles for the CSC, but Canada’s decision to sign on to the next-generation ESSM program all but ensures that weapon will be on the new surface combatants, industry sources say.

“It’s a domino effect,” said a French industry source. “Once you have committed to those weapons, you then need US interfaces and other systems to be installed.”

Annie Joannette, spokeswoman for Public Works, the federal organization overseeing procurement, said the department is still working on determining the best way forward on the CSC project.

Industry consultations were held throughout 2013 and 2014 and Irving Shipbuilding is assessing the competitiveness of the draft requirements of the Canadian Surface Combatant, she added.

No procurement strategy has yet been selected for the future fleet.

“The decision with regard to the best competitive procurement strategy for the CSC will be made by ministers,” Joannette said. She did not have a time frame for when the decision would be made.

Although construction of the vessels is still years away, the Navy hopes to begin initial work on the CSC project, including examining weapons systems and sensors, next year.

Vice Adm. Mark Norman, head of the Royal Canadian Navy, has said the Canadian Surface Combatant fleet will be “the jewel in the crown” of the country’s future maritime force.

Mike Barton, spokesman for Lockheed Martin Canada, acknowledged that the firm has had a 35-year relationship with Irving Shipbuilding and is already working closely with Irving on the systems integration for the new Arctic/offshore patrol ships.

But he said it is “wildly speculative” to suggest that the company would be selected to work on CSC. “Like everyone else, we’re waiting for direction from the government on the path forward,” Barton said.

The Canadian government has not yet decided whether to leave the selection of subcontractors for systems integration, radars and weapons to Irving or to make such selections itself.

Over the past two years, DCNS has tried to increase its presence in Canada, with a view of playing a key role in CSC.

DCNS is proposing that Canada use the FREMM multipurpose frigate as a design for the future fleet. The FREMM ship, Aquitaine, visited Canada in April 2013 as part of those efforts.

DCNS delivered the ship to the French Navy in November 2012.

In November 2013, then-DCNS Chairman and CEO Patrick Boissier visited Canada to conduct meetings with domestic companies and highlight his firm’s desire to expand into Canada.

In April 2014, DCNS incorporated a wholly owned Canadian subsidiary, intended to develop naval engineering and industrial partnerships in the country. DCNS Technologies Canada, with headquarters in Ottawa, would lead the design of the Canadian version of the FREMM frigate if the design is selected, company officials say.

Canada was among export prospects for the DCNS FREMM in a study by the French Defense Ministry, CIDEF trade body and consultancy McKinsey, presented to the Summer Defense University conference in September.

“Operational use of equipment by the French armed forces helps deliver credibility and support for their export,” was the headline on the export page. ■

Pierre Tran in Paris contributed to this report.
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Royal Canadian Navy Submarine HMCS Chicoutimi back in the Fleet following Sea Trials
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Diesel electric submarine (SSK) HMCS Chicoutimi was handed over to the Royal Canadian Navy on December 3rd following its last set of sea acceptance trials. In 2004, a serious fire broke out onboard HMCS Chicoutimi during her transit sail from the United Kingdom to Canada.

HMCS Chicoutimi acceptance trials which started in Septemnber this year were necessary to test the Victoria-class submarine’s engineering systems and capabilities, as well as its crew, and to ensure that all are performed within required parameters.
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DRDC technology supports safer and smoother landings at sea for the Royal Canadian Navy
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Conducting helicopter operations from Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) ships is a complex and dangerous procedure requiring the highest degree of safety. Defence Research and Development Canada (DRDC) has developed a specialized system which has the potential to increase the safety of complex at-sea operations and ensure safer and smoother helicopter landings on RCN ships.
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TerraN_EmpirE

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Canada will purchase fifth C-17
By: DAN PARSONSWASHINGTON DC Source: Flightglobal.com in 3 hours
Canada officially has plans to purchase a fifth Boeing C-17 strategic airlifter, a move that will extend the overall service life of the fleet by at least seven years.

The announcement was made on 19 December by Canadian Defence Minister Rob Nicholson during a visit to Canadian Forces Base Trenton, Ontario.

“It’s no exaggeration to say that the C-17 fleet has revolutionised the way that Canadian forces operate,” Nicholson says. “Without these aircraft, we would be force to contract airlift services or hitch rides with our allies. Instead we are in a position to help our allies when required.”

The purchase will wipe another C-17 off the books of manufacturer Boeing, which has 10 on the production line that will be closed in 2015. A Boeing spokeswoman says two have been spoken for, leaving eight white tails up for grabs.

Nicholson said other allied nations are looking to “augment their existing fleets” and named Australia specifically as being in the market.

Canada designates the four-engine long-range cargo aircraft as a CC-177 Globemaster III. The Royal Canadian Air Force already has four C-17As, according to Flightglobal’s World Air Forces 2014 directory.

Nicholson says the C-17 are a “key component of our Royal Canadian Air Force, which is why I am pleased to announce that the government of Canada is procuring a fifth.”

The purchase will “significantly augment the flexibility of the Canadian Armed Forces strategic airlift”, he says.

Canada acquired four C-17As in 2007 as part of a massive investment in mobility systems, including Boeing CH-47s and Lockheed Martin C-130Js. Small fleets of strategic airlifters are often considered disproportionately burdensome to support, but Canadian officials argued at the time that participation in Boeing's global sustainment programme for the C-17 would offset those costs.

However, the Air Force Association of Canada argued in a position paper last year the country should buy at least one more C-17A. Boeing requires all C-17s in the sustainment programme to receive a heavy maintenance check lasting up to five months every five years. As a result, all four C-17As delivered to Canada over two years would be required to undergo overlapping maintenance checks. Adding a fifth C-17 to the fleet could offset the loss of aircraft availability during the heavy maintenance period, the association wrote.

In 2013, Canada’s existing fleet of C-17s conducted 48 flights and transported 1.59 million kilograms (3.5 million pounds) of cargo to Mali in support of the French military campaign there. They have also been used to support Operation Impact, Canada’s contribution to the international coalition fight against Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria.

The fleet also will soon embark on its seasonal mission called Operation Santa Claus, the nation’s effort to send holiday care packages to Canadian troops serving overseas.
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Naval Today said:
The Royal Canadian Navy frigate, Her Majesty’s Canadian Ship (HMCS) Fredericton arrived yesterday in Lisbon, Portugal to join Standing NATO Maritime Forces as part of Operation REASSURANCE, Canada’s contribution to NATO-led assurance measures that promote security and stability in Central and Eastern Europe.

HMCS Fredericton is the first modernized high-readiness frigate to deploy overseas in support of Government of Canada objectives. HMCS Fredericton replaces HMCS Toronto,which had been conducting maritime security operations and joint NATO training exercises in the Mediterranean Sea as part of Standing NATO Maritime Group 2 (SNMG2) since August 2014.

Operation REASSURANCE refers to the military activities under taken by the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) to support NATO assurance measures through the provision of military capabilities for training, exercises, demonstrations and assigned NATO tasks.

HMCS Toronto participated in various joint NATO training exercises as part of its Operation REASSURANCE deployment including Exercises NOBLE JUSTIFICATION, MAVI BALINA and a historic deployment to the Black Sea for Exercise SEA BREEZE. HMCS Toronto will be returning to Her Majesty’s Canadian Dockyard, Halifax, in late January.

HMC Ships Fredericton and Toronto are both Halifax-class frigates with a crew of approximately 250 personnel of all ranks, including a CH-124 Sea King helicopter and air detachment.
 

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gCaptain said:
OTTAWA, Jan 16 (Reuters) – The Canadian government has picked Irving Shipbuilding Inc, a Nova Scotia-based private company, to build Arctic patrol ships for C$2.3 billion ($1.9 billion), government officials said on Friday.

The government is confident the contract will deliver six ships, with construction starting this summer, the officials told reporters. ($1=$1.20 Canadian) (Reporting by Mike De Souza; Writing by Randall Palmer)
 
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