Miscellaneous News

SinoSoldier said:

It's going to awkward when the CCP wastes its time and energy looking for a foreign instigator, only to later find out that it was its own policies and backpedalling of its promise of autonomy to HK that ultimately led to this backlash.

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SinoSoldier said:

Of course, it knows this already and is still peddling the idea of an American/Western-led "coup" to those brainwashed enough to believe it. But outside of mainland China, where information is heavily censored and whose citizens don't know better than to swallow whatever they're spoonfed, who else will actually believe the CCP's crap?

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manqiangrexue said:

Well they suck at it.

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"An Early Night (Saturday 8 p.m)

Protesters dispersed after some clashes with police, and the day ended without the use of tear gas for the first time in weeks.

Eggs and laser beams (Saturday 7 p.m.)

Hong Kong police said a “large group of protesters” who surrounded its station in Mong Kok posed a threat to its officers at the scene. Some demonstrators were seen aiming laser beams at the police officers, and pelting eggs at the station.

Police in riot gear cleared the area around the station of protesters."


In general, I believe the police estimate. The police are an official entity with social responsibility to tell the truth and far less reason to lie. There is just too much incentive for the organizers to blow up the numbers to make their event look more meaningful. Meanwhile, from the article linked above:

"Pro-China rally (Saturday 5 p.m.)

Tens of thousands joined a pro-government rally in Tamar Park, Admiralty, filling the space adjacent to the central government offices. “Support the motherland, support one country two systems; anti-violence, save Hong Kong,” they chanted. Organizers estimated the crowd size at 476,000, while the police said it was around 108,000, broadcasters reported."

I believe the police estimate on that as well.

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supercat said:

You mentioned a very important aspect. That's the importance of primary, secondary, and tertiary educations. I suspect the young people in HK are brain washed by western propaganda since childhood, mainly through their education. I'm a firm believer that who commandeers the high ground of education wins the ideological war, while the media play a secondary role. It's very unfortunate that the HK government folded to the same ideologues we see today and scrapped the plan to teach more Chinese history in the HK high school curriculum in 2012.

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plawolf said:

Look at the standard issue protective goggles and masks.

China really needs to be following the money to see who is funding this.

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SinoSoldier said:

It's going to awkward when the CCP wastes its time and energy looking for a foreign instigator, only to later find out that it was its own policies and backpedalling of its promise of autonomy to HK that ultimately led to this backlash.

Of course, it knows this already and is still peddling the idea of an American/Western-led "coup" to those brainwashed enough to believe it. But outside of mainland China, where information is heavily censored and whose citizens don't know better than to swallow whatever they're spoonfed, who else will actually believe the CCP's crap?

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manqiangrexue said:

Oh you know so little about American foreign meddling and riot instigation it's too hard to educate you. Just go read up on what America does on the regular, on Iran most recently. It's self-admitted. NGOs admit fueling Hong Kong riots under the guise of civil liberties. It's just not promoted in the Western mainstream media for people like you to see without thoughtfully searching for.

Of course China's own policies served as the trigger to the catalyst of foreign meddling but that's a trigger that must be pulled because these are just policies that need to be introduced to a brainwashed and confused population anyway. Criminals in the mainland should find safe haven in Hong Kong? What kind of joke is that? It's almost as big a joke as Hong Kong's autonomy in the first place. It was robbed from China when China was poor and afterwards returned with conditions? LOL That was 1997. Time for China to take a play from democracy, which is every new president can tear up the last president's promises. Xi Jingping wasn't in charge in 1997; this is 2019. If Trump can tear up Obama's Iran deal, Xi can tear up any 1997 promises in an instant. Let's see the UK try to rob it back now.

The mark of those who hide from the truth is to conflate what he thinks with what others "know." These people are too brainwashed to even look beyond popularized Western media. The majority of the members on this forum don't currently live in mainland China and the majority believe the words of the CCP over Western media so that's immediate evidence of your divorce from reality right there. A vast numbers of westerners believe that the US fomented the unrest in Ukraine and it's an open secret that the US does active social media research to find ways to incite rioting in the populations of hostile governments. Brainwashed is too light a word to describe those who hide from this truth and shove their heads in the sand to evidence of Western fomented unrest.

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