Bltizo FOR MODERATOR

Discussion in 'Feedback & Suggestions' started by Jura, Oct 6, 2017.

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Do you want Bltizo to become an additional Mod

Poll closed Oct 14, 2017.
  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. Jura
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    Jura Lieutenant General

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    many will be surprised, as I had issues with
    Bltizo
    in the past, but it's absolutely not the point;

    the point is the SDF goes to mediocrity,

    and it currently takes tens of hours before members of the
    Moderation Team respond to Report of for example the appalling
    https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/china-without-tibet-and-xinjiang.t8176/page-4#post-476098,
    and as it currently takes weeks before members of the Moderation Team are able to stop ideologically-driven back and forth arguments;

    that's why I've most recently asked Bltizo if in principle he would be willing to become an additional SDF Moderator, and with his consent, I'm establishing this poll; if you care, cast your ballot

    I don't know what's going to happen next (actually I don't know who runs this place), but I believe if Bltizo gets a strong support, it'll be taken into account by the Power User here

    I feel I need to add this disclaimer:
    personally I don't try to gain anything from this activity! (all I wish here is outlandish posts are removed within several hours, and members who log on to fight are officially told to stop, also within several hours)
    OK and I repeat I'm not Bltizo's friend or nothing

    I'm not going to respond to any comments in this thread, in fact I hope it won't become another place for bickering

    now on the technical side:
    I DISallowed voters to change their vote, and
    I DISallowed the results to be viewed without voting, and
    I set to close the poll after eight days

    let's see what the future holds

    the first update is this: the poll worked for me, but says
    Close this poll on Oct 14, 2017 at 8:46 AM
    I won't change it
     
  2. Bltizo
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    Bltizo Lieutenant General

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    I will confirm that Jura had spoken to me about this, and others in the past year or so have suggested I put my name forward for a moderator position as well. A few years back I was offered a moderator position as well, which I turned down.

    At this point I'm willing to be a mod if people on the forum are interested in having another mod on the board, and of course if webmaster and/or other moderators want someone else to help organize the forum a bit.

    But otherwise I don't really mind.
     
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    My god, yes, please.

    Other members who should also be promoted to moderators include @vesicles and @kwaigonegin.

    Tphuang already spoke of a shortage of moderator resources, there's no more appropriate time than now to instate additional moderators.
     
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    Sorry Blitzo but i don't see you very clear sometimes your not biased but not completely neutral
    for me don't do mind.

    And you post only for China, Jeff by ex post for all countries, neutral and objectives moderators must be interested by all countries for do good job, more neutral ofc.

    In more a minima at less 2 new mods are necessary.
     
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  5. asif iqbal
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    asif iqbal Brigadier

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    If we don't get mods I can tell you SDF won't last long

    There is too much fan boy talk right now

    lets get voting so we can start to moderate these silly fanboys who just love to see anything Chinese 100% glossy and on table

    Even pro Chinese members are put off by them
     
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    If extra mods keeps the old Sinodefence then it should be done. Reading discussions here helped me a lot to loosen up yet grow thicker skin. if it weren't for this place I'd probably be a hyper nationalist ranting over at Defence.pk.
     
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    We definitely need new mods here. Tphuang doesn't have time, BDpopeye has stopped and Jeff is sick. The only active mod is Deino. Blitzo is a long standing member and a good choice. I think we need more than just one new mod. Maybe a few other names like Air Force Brat, FORBIN and Jura can be considered. These are people who regularly post here and cares for the forum.

    The two problem of this forum is the lack of mods and the slowing down of the information flow from China. We can't do anything about the latter but we can do something about the former.
     
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    I too agree that we need more mods. All the irrelevant bickering is getting so bad to the point that I no longer want to go to those threads any more... We need to stop this now. More mods definitely help!

    I agree that Bltizo is an excellent choice for a new mod. I don't think his own political/national incline matters. No one is unbiased. Everyone has their own opinion on things. As long as he can referee the forum in a fair manner and does not allow his moderation to be influenced by his own bias, that is what counts. Jeff and Popeye are excellent examples of this. They are clearly biased because they are clearly pro-US. Yet, they have not allowed their own opinion to influence their moderation. I believe Bltizo can do it too.

    As a fellow SDF member, I would also like to take this opportunity to share a few of my own opinion. It's simple. STOP the nonsense back and forth bickering and complaining. It is my belief that ALL SDF members are intelligent individuals who are very successful at their respective endeavors. It is easy to tell that from all the posts here on SDF.

    We are not a whole bunch of high schoolers who are bored of their spoiled lives and want to waste time on the internet and bully each other for fun. So respect each other and respect yourself.
     
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    Well this has been brought up before in here. I believe Blitzo has mentioned he was asked before to be a moderator but he was too busy at the time. Then his time was freed up and this was brought up and no answer.

    I'm for a free-for-all discussion because that's truly neutral and it can be done without insults. If you can't argue and defend your point, don't go calling for censoring the other side because they can. That isn't calling for civility. It's making sure your narrative (and it's usually the dominant narrative) is the only one out there because if that wasn't the case you would be able to make and defend your argument on the facts alone. So you need a little help making sure your narrative is the only one out there...

    The idea of professionalism has been brought up time and time again in this forum. Every time China gets too close to an American spy plane, charges come that China is unprofessional as if the other side doesn't do that. Then you have these recent US Navy ship incidents. Call that unprofessional and its America-bashing. Yeah and then calling China unprofessional is China-bashing. Not the same? And then I can bring up the incident in Alps where hot-dogging American fighter pilots testing their iron threading the needle through the mountains defied repeated warnings not to do that... and then a cable is cut on a gondola and dozens of civilians plunge to their deaths. Yeah don't bring that up because it ruins the narrative that they're professional. People claiming to want a balance in this forum in a situation like that you either stop taking every opportunity accusing China of being unprofessional or let everyone accuse each other of being unprofessional. If you don't like either of those choices, you're biased.

    The open complaints of this forum's slant I see tend to be coming from one side. I'll tell you that the other side has their complaints. If both sides are complaining, then the forum is neutral. I see that some members violate the rules frequently and they're given a pass by moderators because I can see they seem to serve as a balance of sort. And these members are usually the ones that get a deluge of criticism when they obviously are just throwing bombs to see the reaction. Just because you don't like the direction the discussion is going usually because you're being called out, don't hide that you were just trying invoke discussion and then got a discussion when you started off with throwing a bomb in the first place.

    That's why I'm for a free-for-all (without personal insults) because no one is neutral and it's the only way to be fair. I remember earlier reading members charging that one side was taking advantage of Jeff Head's illness. Why don't you just tell people they don't have a right to their own opinion because it doesn't follow lockstep with yours? You're the one taking advantage of Jeff's condition! This forum has always been like this.
     
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    I fully agreed. Not only that Forbin makes a conniving comment privately to me and I've reported it and yet NOTHING has been done as far as disciplining that member. And now he is being consider as a moderator is a total slap in the face to this SDF forum.
     
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