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Brumby

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Aussies have a lot of cash to spend right now and they are investing well for the navy

The first part of your sentence is factually debatable. The conservative government now in power is more willing to put money behind defence programs unlike the previous Labour government which was more focussed on social programs. This was very similar to what is happening in the US today under the Obama administration as when it was under Labour. Every nation has a limited budget, it is just a matter of emphasis and priorities. Like every developed economy, Australia is facing an aging population and with it progressive unfunded future liabilities in healthcare such as Medicare and Social Security.
 

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The nations who received vessels were:

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This new program is meant to replace those vessels whose service life was meant to be from 2002 to 2027.

The new vessels are to be larger, at 130 ft. long, and probably displace close to 200 tons. They will have better accommodations, about the same speed, a little longer range, a larger compliment (up to 23) and will also carry an embarked "interceptor" type boat. They will probably be similarly armed.

Nice program...and very helpful to the recipient nations who are small countries.

20 new vessels. False or true news?
Patrull boats only ones?
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Jeff Head

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20 new vessels. False or true news?
Patrull boats only ones?
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As the report indicates...it is 21 new vessels they will build to replace the 22 in service.

This is a well known program for the replacement of the Pacific Patrol Boats Australia has given to smaller Pacific nations and then helped maintain them.

It is of course true and well documented.

Do some research before you question the validity of such posts.
 

SamuraiBlue

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If you like fiction here is a hypothetical scenario, although I think you should read it with a good pinch of salt.

The next war: Can Australia put up a fight?

War talk is erupting all over the world. From The Middle East to Eastern Europe. From the South China Sea to Afghanistan. But what about Australia? Can we fight with what we’ve got?

REGIONAL defence
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in recent years.

India is spending up big on expanding and modernising its military. China is exercising its new-found muscle with provocative manoeuvres in the East and South China Seas. Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Taiwan – a litany of neighbouring nations –
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including fleets of new submarines and stealth fighters.


Just like Australia.

The Australian Defence Force is embarking on two of its most expensive defence procurements ever – the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and the replacement submarine project .

Controversy mires both.....to read more
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Just consider it as light reading.
 

Silvestre

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As the report indicates...it is 21 new vessels they will build to replace the 22 in service.

This is a well known program for the replacement of the Pacific Patrol Boats Australia has given to smaller Pacific nations and then helped maintain them.

It is of course true and well documented.

Do some research before you question the validity of such posts.

No submarines included in that points?

Australia have 4, 5, 6 submarines in Fleet.
 

Jeff Head

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No submarines included in that points?

Australia have 4, 5, 6 submarines in Fleet.

Silvestre, the article was not about Australia's submarines...it was about the Australian Pacific Patrol Boat program.

We have many other articles and posts about the submarines...but that is not what I was talking about with that post.
 

Jeff Head

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Submarines is also vessels even they are under water.

Sivestre...either you need to study up on more English comprehension, or you need to read what I said.

THE ARTICLE YOU AND I WERE DISCUSSING WAS NOT ABOUT SUBMARINES. IT WAS ABOUT THE PACIFIC PATROL BOAT PROGRAM. Those patrol boats are not submarines.

You are bringing up issues that had nothing to do with that discussion. You have already been warned about interjecting completely off topic comments into a discussion. Please stop doing that.

If you want to post an article about Australian submarines...do so, and then talk about it. If you want to respond to someone else about Australian submarines who are discussing that...do so.

But what you did was ask why submarines were not included in the discussion about Pacific Patrol Boats. It is because that article was not about submarines...it was about PAcific Patrol Boats.

That does not mean you cannot talk about them. Just do so in a separate post that includes an article about them, or with a post that is knowledgeable regarding them.
 

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Pacific Sentinel said:
Austal Limited (Austal) (ASX:ASB) is pleased to announce it has delivered Cape Jervis, the fifth of eight Cape Class Patrol Boats being supplied to the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service under a $330 million design, build and in-service support contract.
Cape Jervis is named after the most south western tip of the Fleurieu Peninsula in South Australia.

Austal CEO, Andrew Bellamy stated that with more than half of the Cape Class fleet now delivered Austal continued to demonstrate its credentials as a partner of choice for Government programs.

“With the delivery of Cape Jervis to the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service on time and on budget our Australian business continues to demonstrate the efficiencies in production realised through the Cape Class program. A benefit to both Austal and our customers on future programs”, Mr Bellamy said.

The remaining three Cape Class vessels are at various stages of construction and will be delivered progressively through to late 2015, in line with the contract.

The sixth vessel was recently launched.

Austal is proving to be quite the shipbuilder foor Military and Coast Guard tuype vessels. They are currently producing:

- Independence Class Littoral Combat Ships for the US Navy (5 vessels of 12)
- Spearhead Class Joint High Speed Vessels for the US Navy (4 vessels of 10)
- Armidale Class PAtrol Vessels for the Australian Navy (14 vessels)
- Cape Class Patrol Boats for Australian Customs & Border Protection (6 vessels of 8)
- Bay Class Patrol vessels for the Australian Customs Service (8 vessels)
- 37.5m Patrol Boats for Yemen Navy (10 vessels)
- 30m Patrol Boat for Trinidad and Tobago Coast Guard (6 vessels)
- High Speed Support Vessel (HSSV) for the Royal Oman Navy (2 vessels)

Some really booming business for them. Orders for a total of 70 vessels.
 
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Brumby

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Speculation on how the Japanese Australian submarine build might be structured.

In early January 2015, the
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that the Ministry of Defense (MOD) had proposed joint development and production of the submarine with Australia. Instead of exporting a completed Soryu-class submarine, the proposal suggested joint development of new technology for material that absorbs sound waves and special steel that would be used to manufacture the hull.

Japan would be in charge of
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of the hull and assembling the submarines, while Australia would be in charge of producing some of the parts as well as the final building and maintenance. A Japanese
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that assembling the submarines in Australia would lead to higher costs and might affect the quality and safety of the product.

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point to Japanese caution about completely handing over its submarine technology to Australia. Submarines
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as the ‘most sensitive of all sensitive information’. For this reason the Japanese military, and especially the Maritime Self-Defense Force (MSDF) whose cooperation will be essential if the deal goes ahead, has major reservations about the deal. MSDF officers ‘don’t tell colleagues, let alone family members, where a submarine is headed after it leaves port’. Japan and the US, which share some information gathered by submarines, do not share the location or ability of each submarine.

But the Abe government
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sharing Japan’s submarine technology with Australia would lead to a strengthening of the production capacity of Japan’s domestic enterprises. The fact that Prime Minister Abe decided to examine the provision of Soryu-class submarine technology to Australia despite opposition from the MOD was regarded as proof that he considers Australia to be a ‘quasi-ally’.
 
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