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Colonel
Something very much different ... for some maps in the making I'm looking for Combat Radius data, but unfortunately quite often only maximum range is given.

So is the a "general" method on how to estimate/calculate the Combat Radius from maximum range? I know it vastly depends on several factors and for most specifications given both, it varies of between a factor 1/2 to 1/3 ... Any help?

This is what I got so far:


H-6G: Combat radius 1,800 km (972 nm)
Su-30MK2 / J-11BH: Combat radius 1,340 km (724 nm)
J-10AH: Combat radius 1,300 km (702 nm) + tanks / 550 km (297 nm) w/o
JH-7A: Combat radius 900 km (586 nm)
J-8FH: Combat radius 1,000 km (540 nm)

The big missing figure here is the payload. I would guess the H-6G would have a payload that is more than double that of the Su-30MK2/J-11BH at those combat ranges.
 

Julio Ramos

Junior Member
Registered Member
I just watched a fly past of our F-7GS and Kfir C2 and something I've notice the past few years is that the F-7GS much quieter than the Kfir. Why is this? Speed they are travelling are roughly the same (eye-ball version) but the noise of the Kfir signiciantly higher. Is it the afterburner? (I did not see them light up though)

I mean today 2 F-7GS passed by and the sound was kinda "meh", or a "silent cruise" but the single Kfir C2 that followed pierces your eardrums.

o_Oo_Oo_O

Where do Kfirs and F-7 are flying together?
 

omarbuzz

Banned Idiot
Registered Member
Years ago I saw a picture of the VFW 614 in a magazine.
Since then I have never seen a picture of an airplane that
has engines mounted above the wings.

Is there a disadvantage(s) to this method of engine placement
compared to placing the engines below the wings?
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
Something I started in the PLA photo thread.


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I don't know if this is just a learning exercise or not. But every video and photo I have seen so far in the past 10+ years on this forum and elsewhere had shown a single person repel. It doesn't matter if it is an exercise, training or war game.

Most NATO, Japan, SK, India or Russia got pictures of multiple repelling from a helicopter which is much faster and efficient. Since the most dangerous part for the helicopter and everyone on board is the hovering part, it makes sense to reduce that time as much as possible.

I thought it maybe because of crappy Chinese helicopters, but Russia got similar ones and got multiple repels. So it must be a doctrine thing?
 

kurutoga

Junior Member
Registered Member
I don't know if this is just a learning exercise or not. But every video and photo I have seen so far in the past 10+ years on this forum and elsewhere had shown a single person repel. It doesn't matter if it is an exercise, training or war game.

Most NATO, Japan, SK, India or Russia got pictures of multiple repelling from a helicopter which is much faster and efficient. Since the most dangerous part for the helicopter and everyone on board is the hovering part, it makes sense to reduce that time as much as possible.

I thought it maybe because of crappy Chinese helicopters, but Russia got similar ones and got multiple repels. So it must be a doctrine thing?


If I am not mistaken, this was discussed on cjdby before. They say the single person fast-roping is more practical in battle because you will carry your rifle, ammo, etc. Multi person is for training but it gets risky if you carry heavy stuff around you. To speed it up, the Chinese fast speed version is using three ropes from all three doors on Mi-171 simultaneously.
 

SandSeref

Just Hatched
Registered Member
Recently on a discussion regarding the BVR capability of the J-10, I stumbled across this pic from internet. But people told me this is a drawing and it is impossible to carry that amount of BVR missile load for j-10. How true is this argument? if so what could be the maximum theoretical pl-12 load for j-10?

j-10_pl-12.jpg
 

Tirdent

Junior Member
Registered Member
Not sure whether that load-out is in fact possible on the J-10 or not, but I am certain that this image is a pretty crude photoshop creation.
 
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