American Economics Thread

Anlsvrthng

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I have a large number of fortune 50 clients. I don't know a single one moving jobs to the US. In fact, they are all looking at significantly more automation and jobs outside the US. They cannot find cheap labor and the STEM workers are dwindling and expensive and they are unwilling to increase wages.

Looking at jobs numbers is the wrong thing to gauge the health of an economy on.
Depends on who looking it.

A big exporting company likes the cheap workforce, so the low unemployment rate is bad for them.

But if you check the opinion of the workers then they likes the low unemployment .


Now, the question is who's opinion does matter?
The billionaire, or the few million workers?
And generally there is no reason to move back the production to the US.


The capitalism is around bankruptcy and competition, if the competitor makes something cheaper in the US then the company abroad will go to out of business,
 
these lines:
Now, the question is who's opinion does matter?
The billionaire, or the few million workers?
reminded me I had recited (I have a booming voice)
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LOL really long time ago (and definitely not in English); now looked up (credit to
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)

"…
The party
is a hand with millions of fingers
clenched
into a single destroying fist.
The individual is rubbish,
the individual is zero …"

I'm getting old, I guess LOL
 
now I read (LOL)
U.S. economy grows at 4.1 pct in Q2
Xinhua 2018-07-28 03:24:18
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The U.S. economy grew at an annual rate of 4.1 percent in the second quarter of the year, higher than the 2.2 percent growth in the previous quarter, the U.S. Commerce Department reported on Friday.

Personal consumption expenditures, which account for more than two thirds of the overall economy, grew at an annual rate of 4 percent in the second quarter, up from 0.5 percent in the first quarter, according to the department.

Net exports unexpectedly added 1.06 percentage point to the second quarter economic growth as U.S. businesses largely increased exports of foods, feeds and beverages ahead of retaliatory tariffs on U.S. products, analysts said.

But trade is more likely to become a drag on the U.S. economic growth in the months ahead, as the United States escalates trade frictions with its major trading partners.

The European Union (EU), Canada, Mexico and other countries have announced retaliatory tariffs against U.S. products in response to the U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum imports.

Economists also believed that the U.S. economic growth is likely to slow down in the second half of the year as the fiscal stimulus gradually fades and the Federal Reserve further increases interest rates.

The U.S. economy is expected to grow at 2.8 percent in the third quarter of the year, according to the latest forecast released by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on Friday.

The Fed last month estimated that the U.S. economy would grow at 2.8 percent this year, still below the Trump administration's target of over 3 percent of annual growth rate.
 
now noticed:
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Our Economy is doing better than ever. Money is pouring into our cherished DOLLAR like rarely before, companies earnings are higher than ever, inflation is low & business optimism is higher than it has ever been. For the first time in many decades, we are protecting our workers!
 

subotai1

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now noticed:

Our Economy is doing better than ever. Money is pouring into our cherished DOLLAR like rarely before, companies earnings are higher than ever, inflation is low & business optimism is higher than it has ever been. For the first time in many decades, we are protecting our workers!

Uh. No. Inflation is the highest its been in 7 years. Raw material cost is going through the roof and manufacturers are leaving the country. We cannot find high tech workers and VC is fleeing the country. So we are seeing far more startups and innovation outside the US. Our allies don't trust us and our enemies love our disfunction. But hey let's swallow all the BS about small short term wins and ignore the growing bigger issues. The future of the US is being mortgaged.
 
Feb 5, 2018
S&P 500 falls 4.1%, worst decline since 2011
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interestingly, it's back at 25500+:

25,700.57 Last Updated: Aug 17, 2018 at 2:53 p.m. EDT
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just looking
 
now noticed
America's banks have never made more money
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American banks just had their most profitable quarter ever. Again.
Tax cuts helped drive bank profits to a record $60.2 billion in the second quarter, the FDIC says. That easily topped the
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that banks hauled in during the first quarter.

Bank profits jumped 25% in the second quarter from a year earlier. More than half of that increase came from the tax law that President Donald Trump signed late last year, which lowered the corporate rate dramatically.

It's no surprise that banks are raking in money as the economy hums along.

But the decision by many banks to funnel tax savings into higher dividends and stock buybacks has been controversial. Such moves have been criticized as helping wealthier investors but not Americans broadly.

Bank executives have countered that those decisions help the economy. JPMorgan Chase (
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) CEO Jamie Dimon
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that it was normal for companies to "recycle capital" and put it to better use.

In a statement, the American Bankers Association, an industry group, said the "real driver of earnings" last quarter was strong lending, though the group also credited tax reform, deregulation and the strength of the economy.
 
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