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So much for Trumps "make America Great Again" economic policy.o_O

IMF cuts US growth outlook amid absent policies
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Heather SCOTT,AFP Tue, Jun 27 12:30 PM EDT
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Washington (AFP) - The lack of details on President Donald Trump's plans to reform the US economy prompted the International Monetary Fund on Tuesday to cut its growth forecast for this year and next.

The IMF in January raised the estimates on the expectation of fiscal stimulus from the Trump administration, but have reverted back to the previous calculations -- which project the economy will expand by 2.1 percent in 2017 and 2018, down from 2.3 percent and 2.5 percent, respectively.

During the annual discussions with US officials on the outlook for the economy, "it became evident that many details about these plans are still undecided," the IMF said of the administration's planned reforms in the so-called Article IV report.

The fund's economists previously had factored in spending stimulus equivalent to two percent of the economy from 2017 to 2019, but that was removed.

The IMF warned that "significant policy uncertainties imply larger-than-usual" risks to the US forecasts on either side, since spending cuts could lower growth, while tax cuts could provide stimulus and expand the economy.

Even while the United States is seeing its third longest expansion since 1850 and is at full employment, the world's largest economy is facing rising public debt and an overvalued currency -- which tends to hinder exports.

"A comprehensive policy package is needed" to respond to those challenges, the report said.

The fund welcomed the administration's objectives to bring down debt and adjust spending policies "to finance priorities such as infrastructure."

However, the discussions "revealed differences on a range of policies and left open questions as to whether the administration's proposed policy strategies are best suited to achieve their intended purpose."

- 'Disproportionate' burden -

In fact, the IMF called into question the stated goal of the Trump administration to accelerate growth to more than three percent.

"It is unlikely this set of policies can generate an acceleration in growth of one percentage point," said Alejandro Werner, director of the IMF's Western Hemisphere Department.

International experience and US history show only a few examples of economies achieving growth of that magnitude, and usually it was after a recession when unemployment was high, he told reporters. In contrast, the US unemployment rate is at a historic low of 4.3 percent.

The IMF called for policies to raise the potential growth rate of the US economy, including through investments in improved education and training programs, and policies to provide incentives to work, such as an earned-income tax credit.

"The US economic model is not working as well as it could in generating broadly shared income growth," Werner said during a press conference

The report however criticized the administration proposals put forth so far, with deep spending cuts "that, in the staff's view, would seem to place a disproportionate share of the adjustment burden on low- and middle-income households."

The report came out as the US Senate is debating a controversial health care reform bill aimed at overturning Obamacare, which the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office said would cause an additional 22 million people to lose their health insurance by 2026.

However, US officials participating in the discussions agreed with the IMF view that uneven growth has created "important social problems" and shared the objective of trying to reverse these trends to achieve a "more even distribution of the gains," Werner said.

The report also warned against measures that would make the United States less open to trade, even while there is room to modernize pacts like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), a process Washington already has begun.

The United States "ought to be judicious in its use of import restrictions," the IMF said.

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delft

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My Dutch newspaper has an interview today with Gary Younge, correspondent of The Guardian in US ( 2003-2015) about his book "Another Day in the Death of America" on the occasion of the publication of the Dutch translation of that book. The book tells the stories about the eleven children who were killed by gun fire in US on November 23, 2013. In it he says that ( I translate back ): "In poor black and Latino quarters weapons fill a gigantic social vacuum. It are places of lawlessness where US feel like a failed state. Young people grow up in poverty with miserable schools without prospects of work with a police that controls rather than protects them. No prospects except drugs dealing and jail."
How can US grow when such a large part of the population is kept unable to contribute to its economy?
Then there is the delayed maintenance of a major part of the public infrastructure: roads, bridges, rail roads, locks and dams, air traffic control and airports. When the financial crisis came there was money to support the banks but not the states and the municipalities and to invest in maintenance.
 
today I noticed How Illinois became America's most messed-up state
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Politicians are notorious for making promises they can't keep. But they really outdid themselves in Illinois -- and now the state is paying for it.
Illinois is on the verge of becoming America's
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. The financial mess is the inevitable result of spending more on pensions and services than the state could afford -- then covering it up with reckless budget tricks.


After decades of historic mismanagement, Illinois is now grappling with $15 billion of unpaid bills and an unthinkable quarter-trillion dollars owed to public employees when they retire.

The budget crisis has forced Illinois to jack up property taxes so high that people are leaving in droves. Illinois may soon have to take the unprecedented step of cutting off sales of lottery tickets because the
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It will get worse if lawmakers can't reach a budget compromise by Friday. This would be the third year in a row that America's fifth-largest state has failed to pass a constitutionally required budget.

"Illinois got to this financially treacherous place by ignoring the long-term consequences of short-term decision-making," said Laurence Msall, the president of Civic Federation, a budget watchdog organization.

The budget crisis has crippled social services that survive on state money, hurting everything from mental health services and Meals on Wheels for homebound seniors to domestic violence support centers.

"The most vulnerable citizens in Illinois are being hurt the most severely," Msall said.

$251 billion pension time bomb

While the budget impasse is throwing a spotlight on Illinois's dire financial situation today, the fiscal problems go back at least to the 1980s and involve politicians from both parties.

The most glaring evidence is the enormous pension crisis. Rather than dealing with the problem, Illinois continued to reward the state's powerful unions with more generous benefits.

The problem festered for so long that Moody's estimates Illinois has unfunded pension liabilities totaling $251 billion. To put that into context, that's more than the combined market value of four major Illinois companies: Boeing (
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"The massive pension liability results from a chronic tendency to defer difficult decisions," said Ted Hampton, who as a senior credit officer at Moody's will help decide whether to downgrade Illinois into junk.

Hampton said Illinois treated the pension fund as a "financial cushion" that could be relied on to provide fiscal relief. He also pointed to a tendency to delay paying bills and chronically underestimate spending needs.

"All of these problems are governance and management weaknesses," Hampton said.

That's a polite way of saying the political leaders broke the system.

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Missed opportunity in 1995

Experts said the turning point may have been 1995. At that point, Illinois already had one of the worst-funded pension systems in the United States. State leaders took action by adopting a 50-year plan to get the pension plans 90% funded.

But that plan turned out to be badly flawed. The initial contributions were too modest, and Illinois didn't make the politically difficult choices of tax hikes or spending cuts to get the budget on a sustainable path.

"It was one of the greatest pieces of chicanery ever pulled by a political system," said Ralph Martire, executive director at the Center for Tax and Budget Accountability, a think tank that promotes social and economic justice.

Instead of reform, the compromise "codified the practice of underfunding the pension" and "intentionally" grew the shortfall by $45 billion, Martire said.

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Illinois is also notorious for using one-time financial tricks that masked the scale of its growing fiscal problems.

"Republicans and Democrats would stand up and say they passed a balanced budget, but it wasn't -- and they knew it," said Diana Rickert, vice president of communications at the Illinois Policy Institute, a free market-oriented think tank.

Rickert said either the politicians knew what they were doing, or they "don't know how math works."

Lately, Illinois has been unable to reach a budget deal at all. Illinois has the distinction of being the first state ever to operate without a budget for more than a year, according to Msall.

"Unfortunately, the gimmicks that have worked in the recent past are not sufficient enough to make up the gaping hole that exists now," Msall said.

Problems could 'snowball' from here

Illinois Republican Governor Bruce Rauner said on Thursday that if lawmakers fail to send a "balanced budget package" to his desk by Friday he will have "no choice but to keep them in session until they get the job done."

That threat may not be enough to prevent Illinois from becoming America's first "junk" state. Moody's and S&P Global Ratings have indicated that failure to reach a budget deal will likely trigger a downgrade of Illinois's debt below investment grade. That means a downgrade could come any day.

Getting cut to junk could make things even worse because it signals a heightened risk of default. Illinois's borrowing costs would probably go even higher, which would only make the budget problems worse.

There's always the chance of a last-minute credible deal, but few are holding out much hope.

"I don't know that Illinois is going to get its act together in days after literally decades of being irresponsible," said Rickert.
 

Air Force Brat

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That is what a failed state looks like.

No Master Delft, that's what a "socialist state" looks like, why do you think I live in "Central Obamastan", the Democrats have "owned" the Unions, and the Union vote. The Democrat Speaker of the House is a thug politician, his name is Michael J. Madigan, he owns and runs the "political machine" that originates in the "arm pit" of the Midwest.

His sweet little daughter Lisa, is Attorney General,,,,, socialist's one and all, Illinois has been run into the ground by a Democrat Machine, that is also tied to organized crime, illegal and legal gambling, the Democrats control both the Illinois House and the Senate, Downstate Republicans and Conservative Democrats elected Bruce Rauner a fiscal conservative to get a handle on state spending as well as "tax relief, after two failed Democrat Governor's, one of whom is in prison for his "thuggery" and dirty dealings in Chicago Politics!

Those guys are "crooks" for real, raised taxes and ran businesses out of the state of Illinios, Licenses and Fees doubled, tripled even, creating this "socialist quagmire that is "Central Obamastan"!

but hey! I do eat well, and so far the Good Lord has managed to survive our family of 11! Praise the Lord, and pass the Beef!
 

delft

Brigadier
No Master Delft, that's what a "socialist state" looks like, why do you think I live in "Central Obamastan", the Democrats have "owned" the Unions, and the Union vote. The Democrat Speaker of the House is a thug politician, his name is Michael J. Madigan, he owns and runs the "political machine" that originates in the "arm pit" of the Midwest.

His sweet little daughter Lisa, is Attorney General,,,,, socialist's one and all, Illinois has been run into the ground by a Democrat Machine, that is also tied to organized crime, illegal and legal gambling, the Democrats control both the Illinois House and the Senate, Downstate Republicans and Conservative Democrats elected Bruce Rauner a fiscal conservative to get a handle on state spending as well as "tax relief, after two failed Democrat Governor's, one of whom is in prison for his "thuggery" and dirty dealings in Chicago Politics!

Those guys are "crooks" for real, raised taxes and ran businesses out of the state of Illinios, Licenses and Fees doubled, tripled even, creating this "socialist quagmire that is "Central Obamastan"!

but hey! I do eat well, and so far the Good Lord has managed to survive our family of 11! Praise the Lord, and pass the Beef!
This is a project by both wings of the American Capitalist Party ( Gore Vidal ) over the last half century or so. You cannot absolve the Republican wing which as it happens is now in charge and failing.
I couldn't point to a well governed US state and the federal government is as bad. All are spending much more than they receives in taxes and other incomes and spending much less than necessary on maintenance and investments.
But you at any rate and your family are still eating well and as do my wife and I. I'm about to return to my kitchen.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
No Master Delft, that's what a "socialist state" looks like, why do you think I live in "Central Obamastan", the Democrats have "owned" the Unions, and the Union vote. The Democrat Speaker of the House is a thug politician, his name is Michael J. Madigan, he owns and runs the "political machine" that originates in the "arm pit" of the Midwest.

His sweet little daughter Lisa, is Attorney General,,,,, socialist's one and all, Illinois has been run into the ground by a Democrat Machine, that is also tied to organized crime, illegal and legal gambling, the Democrats control both the Illinois House and the Senate, Downstate Republicans and Conservative Democrats elected Bruce Rauner a fiscal conservative to get a handle on state spending as well as "tax relief, after two failed Democrat Governor's, one of whom is in prison for his "thuggery" and dirty dealings in Chicago Politics!

Those guys are "crooks" for real, raised taxes and ran businesses out of the state of Illinios, Licenses and Fees doubled, tripled even, creating this "socialist quagmire that is "Central Obamastan"!

but hey! I do eat well, and so far the Good Lord has managed to survive our family of 11! Praise the Lord, and pass the Beef!

don't blame socialist ... NZ, Australia and most EU are socialist countries ... we have a better life and protection from Govt and police than the US citizens

and you keep talking about Lord ... do you realise that the Lord is a socialist too? ;)

Socialist is good as long as it is managed properly like here in NZ
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
don't blame socialist ... NZ, Australia and most EU are socialist countries ... we have a better life and protection from Govt and police than the US citizens

and you keep talking about Lord ... do you realise that the Lord is a socialist too? ;)

Socialist is good as long as it is managed properly like here in NZ

You gotta forgive my friend Brat here whom are still stuck in believing the old religious institution method of hope and pray that things will get better...no need for competent leaders when one got the "Lord on his/her side".;):D
 

Franklin

Captain
The wisdom of Socrates. Very interesting read.

Trump taking wrong approach to China, says Reagan official who helped 'Star Wars' beat the Soviets

Reagan administration used tech-based planning to leapfrog Soviet Union on missile defense.
What worked for 'Star Wars' program can helped cut China's innovation edge in drones, chips.
Trump's focus on balanced trade should be scrapped in favor of pursuing best technology.

The former director of a U.S. intelligence program that helped Ronald Reagan improve America's missile defenses has lashed out at President Donald Trump's technology policies, saying they won't be enough to guarantee America's economic and military superiority over China.

The criticism from Michael Sekora, a trained physicist who ran the Socrates Project for the Defense Intelligence Agency from 1983 to 1990, comes soon after an upbeat meeting between the White House and tech leaders, and amid reports Trump is considering Chinese trade sanctions.

Project Socrates was tasked three decades ago with discovering the reasons why America was losing its economic competitiveness to Japan and others. The program's findings ultimately helped the U.S. surpass the Soviet Union in missile defense technology, according to Sekora, who now runs a Texas-based consulting firm called Quadrigy.

By favoring government procurement of products made by U.S. firms like Apple, Microsoft and IBM and a balance-of-trade approach to foreign policy, "Trump is addressing the symptoms, not the disease" that's caused the U.S. to slip behind China in several key technologies, Sekora told CNBC in a phone interview.

China now has the world's fastest supercomputers, manufactures most of the world's computer chips and is the leading maker of drone hardware, he observed.

"Anybody who thinks China's advantage is cheap labor and currency manipulation is not paying attention," said Sekora, who ran the government effort to boost U.S. competitiveness for Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

"When we applied Socrates (principles) to Star Wars, we leapfrogged over the Soviets," he said.

The feat was accomplished using what Sekora calls "technology-based planning," a strategy that calls for the U.S. to acquire the world's best technologies whether they're built here or overseas — with little regard for how much they cost.

While it was panned by many scientists at that time, the missile-defense program Reagan championed laid the groundwork for the GPS satellite system that underpins many of today's telecom and Internet services.

It also put tremendous economic pressure on the Soviet Union to keep pace.

Now, the worry among strategic thinkers like Sekora is that China has become the main threat to America's lead in military capability and economic output.

"China has become a superpower faster than any nation in world history," Sekora told CNBC. The key is, China has done it through technology-based planning.The country "is run by engineers and physicists, not MBAs and economists," Sekora said.

By stark contrast, Trump is merely continuing U.S. policy, in place since the end of World War II, that calls for the U.S. government to follow a budget-driven procurement process.

"Every person Trump has appointed is from the world of finance-based planning," said Sekora.

This approach to planning was the main reason behind a decline in America's competitive position, the Socrates analysts found.

"Socrates fulfilled its mission: To find the reasons behind America's declining competitiveness," he added. "And the main reason was finance-based planning."

Sekora's chief criticism is that such an approach requires the Department of Defense and other U.S. agencies to stay within budget, rather than focus on getting the best weapons systems possible — whether they're built entirely here or composed of some parts from overseas.

"The measure of success within the DoD is: 'Did you stay within budget when you built your tank?'" Sekora said. Instead, the goal should be to build the best tank (or missile) possible, despite the cost, he added.

"It's not like we didn't care about the money, but [getting] the best technology came first," Sekora said.

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delft

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The wisdom of Socrates. Very interesting read.



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Sounds nice but is it practical? By now China has the advantage in technological and financial planning and US can only equal that, and not improve on it, but only if can conquer internal political obstacles. Think Puerto Rico and Illinois.
 
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