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antiterror13

Brigadier
In general it's a good thing that the US and China are willing to further engage and work out their differences. However on a personal level I am very worried that the net effect for US consumers will be both worse quality and higher prices with increased food imports from China to the US and food exports from the US to China.

How about High Perf Intel Xeon chips to China? still be banned?
 
Could be.
Why my Fuji apples taste funny?
Why am I paying the same for a smaller pack size bacon? LoL.
Hopefully, with stronger dollar and cheaper oil, food inflation shouldn't be that much of a worry.

How about High Perf Intel Xeon chips to China? still be banned?

The quality control problems in China's food production and that food export causes food price inflation in the source country are both well documented, they are fair concerns.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
I chuckled at the hubris in Foreign Policy's headline, but the article has some good insights on US missteps in the Asia Pacific. China lives in Asia and the region is literally life and death for the country. America is on the other side of the planet, and Asia is a choice to engage or disengage. There was never any real question a reemerged China would dominate its immediate area, regardless of what US and other non-regional actors do.

Major, perhaps even decisive, strategic blunders by two administrations, Obama on AIIB and Trump on TPP, are the rare kinds of self-inflicted wounds that tip power balances, and it's hard to see how US could recover after 4 or even 8 more years of Asian neglect. More bombs and bullets wouldn't cut the muster, because US needs something like TPP to stay in the game. On the other hand, if any great power could recover form major unforced errors like AIIB and TPP, it's the United States. I can only hope the next President is more farsighted and capable than Trump and Obama.

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With Washington in disarray, the
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kicking off this weekend in Beijing should be a blaring wake up call that U.S. leadership in Asia is in peril. For two days, China will play
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to more than 1,200 delegates from 110 countries, including 29 heads of state. The event will be centered on China’s “One Belt, One Road” program — more recently rebranded as the “Belt Road Initiative” (BRI) — which aims to provide much-needed infrastructure to connect Asia, the Middle East, and Europe.

Announced by Chinese President Xi Jinping in 2013, BRI is nothing if not ambitious, with plans to involve upwards of 65 countries and
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in the neighborhood of $1 trillion. While skepticism is warranted about the novelty, value, and feasibility of many of the proposed projects, leaders around the world — with nary a better prospect of satisfying their development needs — are pining to take part. This is only the latest manifestation of Chinese leadership at a time when U.S. commitment to the region is less certain than ever.

Washington’s response so far? More U.S. defense dollars. Senator John McCain has proposed a $7.5 billion “Asia-Pacific Stability Initiative” ($1.5 billion annually through 2022) that, according to a McCain
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, would “make U.S. regional posture more forward-learning, flexible, resilient, and formidable,” as well as improve military infrastructure, buy additional munitions, and enhance the capacity of allies and partners in Asia. The idea is popular, receiving preliminary
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from Defense Secretary James Mattis, a
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of lawmakers on Capitol Hill, and the
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s of the Wall Street Journal.

But here’s the catch: Even though larger U.S. defense budgets are sorely needed, no amount of military spending alone can resuscitate American power in Asia. As essential as it is to strengthen U.S. partners and shore up the U.S. military’s position in the region, the near-term battle for influence in Asia will rise and fall on economics instead. And on that score, the United States is losing badly since withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement. Trump and his team have only made matters worse by threatening to undo or renegotiate existing deals, such as the U.S.-Korea Free Trade Agreement.

Beijing can’t believe its luck.

With no indication that the Trump administration has plans to lead on trade and investment, China is busy stealing the mantle.With no indication that the Trump administration has plans to lead on trade and investment, China is busy stealing the mantle. And not just with the Belt and Road Initiative. Beijing also launched the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank in 2015 — absent U.S. participation — providing half of the
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in initial capital. The organization has been growing steadily since,
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13 new countries in March (including Belgium, Canada, and Ireland) that brought its total membership to 70. Meanwhile, China is steering the New Development Bank,
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in 2014 by the BRICS grouping, with $100 billion in start-up capital.
China is similarly poised to lead on trade, sitting in pole position in negotiations on the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP), a regional trade agreement that aims to bring together the 10 members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) plus Australia, China, India, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. The grouping
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almost half of the world’s population and just under a third of global GDP. Negotiations, underway for four years, have
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since the end of 2015. While big cleavages remain and the deal may never be done, RCEP is now the main game in town and the United States isn’t at the table.

These initiatives are important not primarily because of their raw economic impact — which is assuredly less than meets the eye — but instead because they have induced snowballing perceptions of inevitability about the future of a China-led economic order in Asia. And it isn’t lost on anybody that the United States is not participating in any of these programs. This isn’t simply anecdotal or the product of inside-the-Beltway theology. A recent
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revealed that Southeast Asian elites see the United States losing strategic ground to China, and Trump’s Washington as less interested in the region, less dependable, and less likely to uphold free trade.

Which gets back to the efficacy of a strategy predicated primarily on military strength if the administration’s economic policy toward Asia looks more like a noxious mix of neglect and contempt. Officials in the region are now quietly warning that Southeast Asia is rapidly approaching (if not having already crossed) the line whereby countries will be unwilling to initiate major new security activities with the United States for fear of economic retribution from China. This is the case not only among America’s new partners like Vietnam and Malaysia, but also its longstanding friends like Singapore and Australia. After all, would Canberra agree today to a new U.S. force posture initiative akin to the deal the Obama administration successfully negotiated in 2011 to rotate up to 2,500 U.S. Marines in Darwin? The answer is decidedly “no,” and although some of that has to do with Trump himself, the more fundamental reason is the emerging belief (however
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) that Australia’s economic future is now hitched to China’s wagon.

The United States will need strong, independent, and reliable allies and partners to advance its vital interests in Asia. But the only way something like McCain’s Asia-Pacific Stability Initiative can succeed is if the United States provides the region with an alternative to economic dependence on China and Chinese-led institutions. Reviving U.S. participation in TPP (or some version thereof) is the simplest and obvious first step. The politics of trade are abysmal right now, but so too are the consequences of U.S. withdrawal and protectionism. If an about-face on TPP is too much for even the Trump administration to bear, then it will be on the hook — and fast — for an equally ambitious economic endeavor in Asia. Otherwise, the United States will soon be squeezed out of large swaths of the region, no matter how many billions of dollars Congress commits to strengthen U.S. military power in Asia.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
On the other hand, if any great power could recover form major unforced errors like AIIB and TPP, it's the United States. I can only hope the next President is more farsighted and capable than Trump and Obama.

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I doubt it. US government leadership is on a downward spiral with no hope or end in site. If the people has to wait for the next president to do better than the previous administration, than it is too late. No amount of "hope and change" or "make America great again" if the inept institutions that dictates and run this country refused to change and adapt to the changing world around them.
 

delft

Brigadier
I doubt it. US government leadership is on a downward spiral with no hope or end in site. If the people has to wait for the next president to do better than the previous administration, than it is too late. No amount of "hope and change" or "make America great again" if the inept institutions that dictates and run this country refused to change and adapt to the changing world around them.
And it is silly to blame Trump.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I wonder if Trump has ever watched the movie the Pelican Brief. What took down the President is very similar to what we hear with Comey and his meeting with Trump.
 
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