Aircraft Carriers III

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    Love to see those F-35Bs on the RN carriers.

    Alos love to see these on there...finally. At least something!

    They need some ESSMs and some RAMs too though.

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    As I say 3-4 Phalanx is better than nothing, but when you have a max of two shooters with nly 48 silos reach, you need more. But glad to see these on there anyhow.
     
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    Also...I made my point with the Japanese 2 carrier Strike Group with F-35Bs.



    Now for the Korean wit F-35Bs.



    BTW, those Sejong DDGs are custom made from a couple of Flight IIA US Burkes. Lengthen then a bit and then added all the extra weapons.

    I always have liked the Sejong. Total of 165 missiles. 80 Mk-41, 48 K-VLS, 21 RAM missiles, and 4 x Quad Packed ASMs (Korean missiles, Harpoon like) amidships.

    1/700 retrofitted and turned into Se Jong AEGIS (KDX-III)

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    I've got a new 1/350 scale Flight IIA Burke I will be doing this to also...gotta have a 1/350th Se Jong too.
     
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    hey Jeff Oct 2, 2019
     
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    First British F-35B land onboard HMS Queen Elizabeth
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    In Living Colour!
     
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    points from
    Aircraft Carriers – what are they for? https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/what-are-they-for/
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    1. Cover for naval task group
    it's the other way around

    2. Platform to launch strikes on coastal and inland targets
    "inland" using F-35Bs??

    3. Launch point for amphibious landings by troops
    the way how to get sunk by navy of some Third World country

    4. A Flexible, mobile and responsive airbase
    OK

    5. Base for the delivery of humanitarian aid
    no comment

    6. A demonstration of political will without resort to force
    = bluffing

    7. A flagship for command and control
    OK

    8. A base for intelligence gathering and reconnaissance
    fishy

    9. Sovereign territory
    looking for trouble

    10. A platform for trade and diplomacy, a visible symbol of prestige
    LOL
     
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    Actually it’s a bit of both ways. The Carrier is fairly underwhelming in its armaments as a general rule yes but the air wing supports operations. Assets off the carrier like ASW Choppers, AEW platforms extend the range of detection and support among the formation. The Fighter wing also adds anti surface capability. It’s not as one sided as it seems.
    The British,USMC, Italian and Spanish use AV8 for that today and that has an inferior combat radius and Max range vs F35B. So why not?
    In theory, but the. Again there are other types of launching points for Amphibious landings and this isn’t so much carriers as it is LHA and LHD types.
    These are actually one and the same. It’s common practice for the US DOD to support humanitarian and disaster relief operations. From both CVN and LHA/LHD types. Nuclear carriers bonus is they produce sweet water on there own. The ability to move on transport and deploy food, Medicine even help by providing a hospital and command and control make such missions far easier.
    Not entirely a bluff as they can still be used to render pain on to trouble makers.




    These two again are really one and the same. The command systems the organic air wing. These mean it has the ability to process and launch information gathering ops. Heck for a time US carriers played host to a unique U2 Variant that could take off and land on the deck for launching recon ops.
    The battle ships of old did this all the time. Port of call visits were often diplomatic functions.
     
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    Beat me to it. The most annoying point is suggesting the F-35B lacks range. LOL! It has TWICE the range of Harriers that were previously used in the role and no one suggests they couldn't work 'Inland'. The 'Bravo' only lacks range compared to other models of the F-35, not other fighter bomber types, and IFR negates this anyway.

    You've been listening to Pierre Sprey again, a man who makes a living denouncing things he knows nothing about, claiming he has expertise from being on the design teams for the A-10 Warthog and the F-16. He wasn't. He was a lowly number cruncher in the Pentagon in the 70s and had no say in any aircraft design. None of his claims stand up to scrutiny yet people still give his views credence.
     
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