Aircraft Carriers III

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  1. asif iqbal
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    Should have upgraded HMS Ocean

    And together with 2 x Albion class and Bay class would have formed a independent amphibious assault group

    Keep them separate from the carrier strike groups

    Using carrier strike groups for littoral missions is too dangerous

    But I know why they did it, simply there is not enough escorts to cover 2 x CSG and 1 x ARG
     
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    The plan is for the RN to deploy 1xCSG and 1xARG, not 2 of either. The second carrier is 'off duty' whilst the first is deployed or ready to deploy.

    Next on the list for replacement is Argus around 2024, and this could be used as an excuse to provide a proper replacement for Ocean too, if a suitable LPH type ship design can be provided (BAe have an enlarged variant of Ocean on the drawing board...). Talk of replacing Albion and Bulwark with LHDs needs to stop, as they won't be replaced until the mid 2030s at the earliest and we need an LPH capability ASAP. 40 years ago the LPH role was loaded onto the carrier force just to maintain it's currency between the lifespans of suitable dedicated ships, and this has happened again. Ocean came in for the price of a Frigate (a bit too cheap at the time, but rectified later), so it won't be like ordering a third CVF cost-wise.
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    1130 on 19 Sep and the tugs are seen clustered in the Rosyth basin and the flight deck on R09 is cleared of surplus contractor’s equipment and She’s ready to go! The weather looks OK too.

    HMS Prince of Wales will sail again (even if it’s not far today!) at around 1600 for the first time in 78 years, and the famous R09 pennant under power for the first time in 41 years. A great day for the RN and UK defence capability is in prospect 70295971_10156362684581481_7255161423301443584_n.jpg 70488436_10156362684551481_1327082192236445696_n.jpg 70696568_10156362867661481_1526288655235153920_n.jpg
    Gangways removed and ready to go!

    The first members of her air group are ready to embark too; Merlin HM2s from 814NAS:
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    And she's moving! PTB Buccaneer was loaded first and the tugs are positioned ready to help her out of the basin: 70376525_402185440710903_3602626114142339072_o.jpg 70918777_402185210710926_8408670389240070144_n.jpg 70684896_402222514040529_3372829206139371520_o.jpg 70445264_10156362877756481_697137169973641216_n.jpg 71248551_653283335076114_8763333030308741120_n.jpg
     
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    Formation sailing

    2 x carriers let’s see it

    Since 2011 I have always looked over my shoulder while crossing the bridge at Rosyth

    After 8 years the port is now empty and nothing to see there

    Seems like such a long time but in other times so fast

    Really a milestone
     
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    Nosing out of the basin:
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    As HMS Prince of Wales finally changes from building site to Warship, the Royal Mail has released her sister on a stamp!
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    She's anchored in the Forth now, awaiting final checks and suitable tides before leaving for the North Sea and her trials: 70387362_3376305879054107_6041618224838082560_n.jpg 70816586_3376305709054124_212602685038264320_n.jpg 71386294_3376305722387456_6475852780106940416_n.jpg 70830703_10156799077716917_6142616060135735296_o.jpg 70419484_10156798978331917_8025349913896288256_o.jpg
     
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    Some More: 70403084_10156800456671917_3995490316055478272_n.jpg
    Name plate and deck letter clearly visible;
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