Aircraft Carriers III

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    even if it was true what you described (and I wouldn't know if it was, or wasn't, true),

    how came those "classified spaces" had not been set up from the beginning?

    for years I've been hearing how the Fords operating F-35Cs should be revolutionary transformation quantum-leap game-changers, and now what:
     
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    so
    This is how the Navy plans to break the Big E https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/06/06/this-is-how-the-navy-plans-to-break-the-big-e/
     
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    I would not know how to answer your question because I don't work for the USN. The only reason I became aware of the classified compartmentalisation issue is because a year ago i read a document written by a person who actually worked in the F-35 JPO and this issue was brought up in that document. The point is the F-35 is bringing significant changes within its eco system. Some can be anticipated and some gets developed as the services get a better handle on how the F-35 is impacting operations in a totally different kind of way.
     
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    I'm not interested in some newspeak like your "eco system",

    I'm curious if only now they realized the ship (commissioned almost two years ago) would need changes to be able actually operate F-35Cs (their IOC already declared),

    or if the Pentagon tries to fool every body following the Ford and F-35 Programs
     
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    It’s a matter of need.
    Although F35C has had IOC that just means in a absolute emergency they could be fleet deployed.
    When Ford was floated the Navy was centered on F/A18E and F. Today it’s centered on F/A18E and F. Tomorrow it will be centered on F/A18E and F. In 2021 the navy plans to introduce F35C to the fleet. If they installed it now it wouldn’t be used.

    They could use the blast deflectors but what would be the use of the other changes?

    Congress wants the JFK ready to launch F35C on commission in 2024. Which makes sense as then the Navy will have them in the fleet. But Ford? Why install just to sit and wait?
     
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    I suggest you write to the USN Secretary to demand an answer and be sure to share it when you get one.

    In my assessment. there are two big issues :
    (1)Whether it is even feasible to compartmentalise given the free flowing nature of the ISR data. Building a facility to house the data is the least of the problem.
    (2)A much bigger problem is the no where in sight solution to the EMAL issue and following that the elevator problem.
     
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    I was thinking about the situation and my conjecture is this:

    if the USN knew about serious issues of the Ford Project,

    now (2019) it'd be the time to concede to them and notify the Congress (so that they can "rebaseline" I mean extra money in FY21);

    if the USN just covered up serious issues now, and this is what I suspect is going on,

    the Fords would be left to their fate as the Zumwalts
     
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    Monday at 9:33 PM
    still didn't enter:
    Aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln in the Arabian Sea

    07 Jun 2019 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-m...rd-the-uss-abraham-lincoln-in-the-arabian-sea

    (there's a footage inside which I don't know how to link here)
     
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    Thanks for posting Jura.. I tried to find that video on you tube...It is not yet posted.:confused:
     
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