Aircraft Carriers III

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    New Russian aircraft carrier? HA! I will believe it when I see it. The Russians have been claiming plans to build a CV force for years....So far not a single slab of steel has been cut. It's just hyperbole..

    My take long ago on Russian CVs..this still stands today.

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    Meanwhile the Russians nor China nor France can do this..no brag just facts!

    Navy Announces Successful Test of Electromagnetic Catapult on CVN 78

     
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    I read the article about the proposed Russian CV..

    They've never operated a steam cat..now they claim to be planning a EMAL cat on this new ship? Plus how are they going to generate the power for that catapult because the article does say;

    To operate an EMAL cat they better have a lot of power..that is reliable.
     
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    There ya go, its kinda liberating not to have to mod your own opinion isn't it bro??? now you can "tell it like it is", just like the AFB!
     
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    i hope they see the sense in this, instead of going for a 65,000 tonne carrier wild goose chase,
    perhaps with conventional cats (they could have tried to reverse engineer the old cats on the vikrant ,with improvements, off course, they had decades to do this if they had the foresight, they can still do it),( had a pic of it which i seem to have lost:()
    what would the chinese have done???
    i would prefer an indigenous (reverse engineered from the cats on the vikrant) steam cats (and safer too, in case they hit them with sanctions) any day as compared to EMALS form the americans (i still do not think they will give it)

    and perhaps with an increase in displacement from 40000 to 50000 tonnes.
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    one has to learn crawl, and walk before they try to run

    CSL offers to build another aircraft carrier
    http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...d-another-aircraft-carrier/article7212380.ece
     
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    These are old news (link below in Russian) , but official Russian position was that design phase of a new carrier would last until 2018. So don't expect any steel to be cut yet :D

    IMHO, much would depend on fate of Kuznetsov . As it stands, that ship doesn't have much value in today's situation . Or in other words, it would need to be either modernized or scrapped . If they decide to scrap it , I would expect construction of new carrier to start somewhat earlier . If not, then it would have to wait at least until 2020 .

    http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/archiv...ektromagnitnoy-katapul-ty23-04-2014-16-50-00/
     
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    Agree steam cat suffficient, EMALS very expensive US military* since some decades want hight tech weapons and this greatly increases the costs... and because it now her number decreases...
    *USAF especialy also USN no Army and USMC.
    But a 65000 t more large can get a more big CAW now with EMALS etc... if it double her price, 2 CV less sophisticated, really better.
     
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    Just a quick question here.
    What is normally the rank of the commanding officer of an aircraft carrier in the different navies? Also, is he/she automaticly in charge of the complete strike groupe, or is there a more senior officer?
    Finally, are the detials of the air missions (except those for carrier defense) routed through, and managed by, the carrier captain, or do they go directly to the air-wing boss from higher echolons?
     
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    For Frencv CVN Capitaine de vaisseau don' t know name in English http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitaine_de_vaisseau
    A CO for each ship of a TF for France a Counter Admiral command the TF in more one officer of Naval Aviation command CAW operations. In USN named Air Boss i think.
     
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    With the US Navy commanding officers of carriers are always captians.

    So far as the missions flown..those orders come for a higher echelon as you stated. Of course the CO gets to see them and perhaps have some inputs. the CO's job is to carry out orders of persons above him and make sure the ship is operational so the ship may carry out those missions..
     
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