Aircraft Carriers III

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I liked most those commemorating Dreadnought Hyuga :)
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and this control room (#121):
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Jeff Head

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She never served in any armed force.

Oh she did knot know she was pregnant..unbelievable. She surely did not look pregnant. Just chubby.

On to carriers.

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GREAT pictorial documentation of the Hyuga class!

Nice sized hangar:

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Just wish the elevators were at the side of the deck intstead of smack in the middle of it!

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These vessels have GREAT sensors and C4:

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Nice mess halls:

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Loved the pics of the bridge:

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Just nice DDH carriers:

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red carpet will be next?
New gangways to support Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers
Two huge state-of-the-art gangways built to meet the unique demands of the Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers have arrived at Portsmouth Naval Base.
Designed and developed by Dutch specialists Verhoef, on behalf of BAE Systems, the bespoke gangways are part of an investment of £100 million to support HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales while they are docked in Portsmouth.
The gangways, known in the maritime industry as ‘brows’, have been specifically produced to provide industrial and naval workforces day-to-day access to the largest warships ever constructed for the Royal Navy. Weighing 12 tonnes each, a single brow can cater for a footfall of up to 3,000 people per hour, with up to 500 industrial staff expected to work on the ships each day when they are alongside during maintenance periods.
The reception point brow will be used predominantly by Royal Navy and VIP visitors. Its telescopic gangway will extend up to 19 metres over the water while the aircraft lift brow will allow easy access to the ships for support staff.
Mark Harris, BAE Systems Queen Elizabeth Class Readiness Project Manager, said: “The reception point and aircraft lift brows are unique to the new Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers as existing designs are too short for these ships.
“The brows are cutting-edge a steel and aluminum construction, built to provide a means of access that can be deployed quickly, without the need of a crane, and taking account of tidal conditions and ship movements. The brows also come with integrated LED lighting to provide illuminated access during dark hours.”
A rigorous training and familiarization program will now take place to ensure those supporting the aircraft carriers at Portsmouth Naval Base are ready to operate and maintain the new equipment ahead of HMS Queen Elizabeth’s arrival in 2017.
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bd popeye

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GREAT pictorial documentation of the Hyuga class!

Very nicely appointed ship. She does look deserted..

My observation
1) The crew is to small. only 360.. This would be a great factor as far s damage control is concerned and future ablity to handle more aircraft..

2) Why is that Phalanx CIWS on the bow and not on a sponson?

3) As Jeff stated those elevators would be better placed along the deck edge.

I just can't imagine being on a ship that size with such a small crew. Who cleans it? Nor enough sailors for a proper field day.

Field Day - To scrub or otherwise clean a ship's spaces...all of them.
 

Jeff Head

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Watch this video:


.Oh man...on March 18, 2016, this pilot does a heck of a job and saved several lives (usually five personnel man this aircraft) and saved a VERY expensive aircraft (...like $175 million each) when the arresting cable on the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower snapped as he landed.

Eight sailors suffered non-life threatening injuries on deck as they tried to get out of the way of the cable when it snapped, and the aircraft continues and goes off the end of the carrier.

But having applied full military thrust pulls up before plowing into the ocean.

The official Navy Report lauds the “phenomenal airmanship” by the Hawkeye’s pilot and crew. They train for these type of incidents, but when they occur, oft times it ends badly.

As reported by the Navy, the investigation found that Human error and improper maintenance were blamed for the mishap because maintenance personnel missed “critical steps” while working on an arresting gear engine.

The E-2 Hawkeye is the Navy’s all-weather, carrier-based tactical battle management airborne early warning, command and control aircraft. The E-2 is a twin engine, five crewmember, high-wing turboprop aircraft with a 24-foot diameter radar rotodome attached to the upper fuselage.
 

Jeff Head

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Very nicely appointed ship. She does look deserted..

My observation
1) The crew is to small. only 360.. This would be a great factor as far s damage control is concerned and future ablity to handle more aircraft..

2) Why is that Phalanx CIWS on the bow and not on a sponson?

3) As Jeff stated those elevators would be better placed along the deck edge.

I just can't imagine being on a ship that size with such a small crew. Who cleans it? Nor enough sailors for a proper field day.

Field Day - To scrub or otherwise clean a ship's spaces...all of them.
I do not think that the 360 shwon in most stats include the air compliment, or the Marines they carry on these ships.

If they carry the full compliment of 18 helos, how many would that entail popeye? Let's consider eight helos. In your experience working in helo squadrons aboard carriers, how many personnel would it tke to operate and maintain eight Seahawk type helos on such a vess3ek?

Also remember, they are also talking about a potential squadron of four Ospreys too.

...and they can carry up to 350 Marines except normally it is going to be something like 200.

So, altogether, when you add all of that up, in peace time you are probably at 700-800. If they maxedd out with Marines and 18 helos, your are probably closer to 1,000.
 

FORBIN

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wonder what are you going to say about
Displacement: 70,600 tonnes
Complement: 679 crew, not including air element;
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Different reasons coz in Asia things are different,in Western combattants more automated for save cost with more small crew as for all branchs personnal down since 1990 down, down and down ... increase a bit from Crimea.

In Asia you have Armies Cold War style, big, for give an idea many bases, units but despite that not a size comparable with NATO and URSS in 1980's by ex USSR have an enormous army much powerful than China now, no comparison.

And Asian combattants ofc are also modern, recent more automated as before but have crew more numerous, personnal is much less expensive in Asia in particular with conscripts, in Western Europe almost all Armies are professionalized now.
 

FORBIN

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I do not think that the 360 shown in most stats include the air compliment, or the Marines they carry on these ships.

If they carry the full compliment of 18 helos, how many would that entail popeye? Let's consider eight helos. In your experience working in helo squadrons aboard carriers, how many personnel would it tke to operate and maintain eight Seahawk type helos on such a vess3ek?

Also remember, they are also talking about a potential squadron of four Ospreys too.

...and they can carry up to 350 Marines except normally it is going to be something like 200.

So, altogether, when you add all of that up, in peace time you are probably at 700-800. If they maxedd out with Marines and 18 helos, your are probably closer to 1,000.
Can host 100 troops, Izumo 400, 16 helos vs 29 and Izumo have 2900 t fuel, water for replenished ships for about 4 max in fact, interesting.
 
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Different reasons coz in Asia things are different,in Western combattants more automated for save cost with more small crew as for all branchs personnal down since 1990 down, down and down ... increase a bit from Crimea.

In Asia you have Armies Cold War style, big, for give an idea many bases, units but despite that not a size comparable with NATO and URSS in 1980's by ex USSR have an enormous army much powerful than China now, no comparison.

And Asian combattants ofc are also modern, recent more automated as before but have crew more numerous, personnal is much less expensive in Asia in particular with conscripts, in Western Europe almost all Armies are professionalized now.
not sure what you're implying FORBIN ... West smart, East stupid maybe? LOL

my question (directed at bd popeye in the context of the numbers for the Hyuga, but never mind) was
wonder what are you going to say about
Displacement: 70,600 tonnes
Complement: 679 crew, not including air element;
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and let's wait and see how it works out for sooo smart QEs
 
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