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Jeff Head

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Re: World-Wide Aircraft Carriers

bd popeye said:
In fact when my son was on board there were no missiles on the ship. What a waste. The ship is now decomissioned. More waste. Just my opinion.
I agree...an unbelievable waste.
 

e-x-e

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I was just wondering if the Japanese have V/STOL Air Craft Carrier …what kind of reaction will Chinese have if they parked JSF on board? Can anyone give me the operational radius of vertically takeoff JSF?


And I found some interesting picture of so called submarine air craft carrier; it looks childish, but come to think about it, it is quite possible with today’s technology to build one
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the idea is, of course use submarine to carry aircraft.
And I think it is quite possible for JSF to vertically land on an open shell type of platform, or just vertically lunch future aircraft like a missile.
Imagination is what moves the technology forward…
:rofl:

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MIGleader

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Re: V/STOL Air Craft Carrier

e-x-e said:
I was just wondering if the Japanese have V/STOL Air Craft Carrier …what kind of reaction will Chinese have if they parked JSF on board? Can anyone give me the operational radius of vertically takeoff JSF?


And I found some interesting picture of so called submarine air craft carrier; it looks childish, but come to think about it, it is quite possible with today’s technology to build one
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the idea is, of course use submarine to carry aircraft.
And I think it is quite possible for JSF to vertically land on an open shell type of platform, or just vertically lunch future aircraft like a missile.
Imagination is what moves the technology forward…
:rofl:
exe, you pic is a red x.

the japanese built the I-400 class subs in ww2. they were huge subs, with dozend of torpedoes and guns. they could also carry three aichi seran torpedo bombers in their special hanger. the japs built four of these and planned to use it on a sneak attack on panama canal. but the subs got deverted to okinawa instead.
 

rommel

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Re: V/STOL Air Craft Carrier

e-x-e said:
I was just wondering if the Japanese have V/STOL Air Craft Carrier …what kind of reaction will Chinese have if they parked JSF on board? Can anyone give me the operational radius of vertically takeoff JSF?


And I found some interesting picture of so called submarine air craft carrier; it looks childish, but come to think about it, it is quite possible with today’s technology to build one
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

the idea is, of course use submarine to carry aircraft.
And I think it is quite possible for JSF to vertically land on an open shell type of platform, or just vertically lunch future aircraft like a missile.
Imagination is what moves the technology forward…
:rofl:

well, it's a idea, but can you imagine the size of those kind of subs ?? it will be at least as big as a SSBN but you need place for plane and our modern plane are bigger than 60 years ago, you need fuel, lot of them, lot of ammo like missiles in spare, you need also a technical crew since the hydraulic and electronic on our modern plane need more maintenance, i'll say that a Typhoon-class SSBN, if we converted in a "sub carrier" will not be able to carry more than 3 planes,because you'll have to get room all the maintenance crew, + fuel + ammo + spare part, bd_popeye, your were on a carrier, were you ? So how many maintenance crew you have on board for each plane ? A sub of this size will be easily spotted, no ?? Not a good idea, i think...
 
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MIGleader

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Re: V/STOL Air Craft Carrier

rommel said:
well, it's a idea, but can you imagine the size of those kind of subs ?? it will be at least as big as a SSBN but you need place for plane and our modern plane are bigger than 60 years ago, you need fuel, lot of them, lot of ammo like missiles in spare, you need also a technical crew since the hydraulic and electronic on our modern plane need more maintenance, i'll say that a Typhoon-class SSBN, if we converted in a "sub carrier" will not be able to carry more than 3 planes,because you'll have to get room all the maintenance crew, + fuel + ammo + spare part, bd_popeye, your were on a carrier, were you ? So how many maintenance crew you have on board for each plane ? A sub of this size will be easily spotted, no ??

how would you even launch the plane? it would have to vstol or vtol. and you would still need a huge deck.
 

rommel

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MIGleader said:
how would you even launch the plane? it would have to vstol or vtol. and you would still need a huge deck.

well, i never said that it was a good idea. but for launching you can use those rocket-powered launch ramp like the RN used during WWII on auxiliary ship, a VTOL don't a huge, their use a large deck because a more conventionnal take-off and landing take less fuel than vertical take-off and landing, but still, you need lot of place for the fuel in this case...
 

e-x-e

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Re: V/STOL Air Craft Carrier

rommel said:
well, it's a idea, but can you imagine the size of those kind of subs ?? it will be at least as big as a SSBN but you need place for plane and our modern plane are bigger than 60 years ago, you need fuel, lot of them, lot of ammo like missiles in spare, you need also a technical crew since the hydraulic and electronic on our modern plane need more maintenance, i'll say that a Typhoon-class SSBN, if we converted in a "sub carrier" will not be able to carry more than 3 planes,because you'll have to get room all the maintenance crew, + fuel + ammo + spare part, bd_popeye, your were on a carrier, were you ? So how many maintenance crew you have on board for each plane ? A sub of this size will be easily spotted, no ?? Not a good idea, i think...
Im talking about vertical takeoff, so the deck size don’t have to be THAT big...and Im talking about something wayyy in the future...perhaps you can lunch smaller UAVs
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It can be a miniature submarine stationed deep underwater(so no sound) and when it is required, it can lunch a UAV just by floating to sea level. The submarine station and UAV can be unmanned and can be placed anywhere in the world with out being easily detected. And the submarine does not necessary requires its own power plant, you just need someone to go retract it.
 
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rommel

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Re: V/STOL Air Craft Carrier

e-x-e said:
Im talking about vertical takeoff

i know that, but your vertical take-off aircraft need even more fuel than normal plane, and they need the same number at least of maintenance crewman...
 

e-x-e

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Re: V/STOL Air Craft Carrier

rommel said:
i know that, but your vertical take-off aircraft need even more fuel than normal plane, and they need the same number at least of maintenance crewman...
Is it that hard to make a vertical take off catapult? You just need a big fan under the platform lol:roll:
And the aircraft is getting more reliable and easier to maintain. You just need to plug into plans computer to check most of problems now.(F22…)
ok, lets end this topic, i posted this topic to talk about LPD JSF aircraft carrier
 

rommel

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Re: V/STOL Air Craft Carrier

e-x-e said:
Is it that hard to make a vertical take off catapult? You just need a big fan under the platform lol:roll:
And the aircraft is getting more reliable and easier to maintain. You just need to plug into plans computer to check most of problems now.(F22…)
ok, lets end this topic, i posted this topic to talk about LPD JSF aircraft carrier

well, a LPD is pretty small... most LPD can only carry 4-6 chopper...
 
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