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Jeff Head

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... lets cover the recent big change coming to the CVN Where the USN has made the move recently to issue a memorandum of understanding for the procurement of V22 for use in the CODs Role for CVNs.
I favored using the S-3s we have in storage.

They are already built and have a proven track record...many of them (more than enough for this procurement) with more than enough airframe life left on them.

They are faster, have the long legs, and can carry whatever necessary. Would make very good use of very good airframes now sitting out in the desert.

After that, I favored the Greyhound new builds. They would add a good capability and have a LOT in common with the E-2D airframes upon which they would be based. Also have the long legs, and also have a proven record.

I do not necessarily dislike the Osprey...I honestly think it will do a good job for most of the task and it will also add the ability to hit the smaller flight decks that the S-3s and Greyhounds cannot do, that the Navy now uses helos for.

However, it is also has the least history/record, the shortest range, and there are things it needs to be able to carry that it cannot.

I guess we will see what comes of it.
 
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Poll Shows Majority of French People in Favor of Delivering The Two Mistral Class LHDs to Russia

Now the ball is with Hollande... what will he decide? 10 days to go


I hope he does not make such a decision based on a "recent poll." Polls can be worded, engineered, and skewed to say pretty much whatever the administrator of the poll wants it to say.
 
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In addition to this, the most must be made of assets available, even if the F35 suffers no more delays, the HMS Queen Elizabeth will not receive fixed wing aircraft for years. It may therefore be sensible to enquire about the procurement of Sea Avenger UAVs (an advanced version of the Reaper drones, which can make use of the same infrastructure as that aircraft) in order to provide an interim fixed wing carrier capability (if they are suitable to Short-Take Off & Landing/Ramp carrier operations), that can in time provide a suitable partner to the F35s, while in the meantime giving the fleet a long range strike and intelligence asset to enable it to maximise capability.
I wonder if the part I underlined could make sense?
 

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I do not really think so. So far the Avenger is just a contender for the USN UCLASS program, which will produce a product ready for service in 2018 or 2019 if I'm correct. Unlike the X-47B it has never actually flown off a carrier, and Lockheed certainly won't share the data.
So even if the UK decides to go ahead and rush it into service, it'll still take years doing tests, especially with the ramp, I imagine. From then it really isn't too far until the F-35 comes along. So not really much in the sense of an "interim" here.
Doesn't mean it wouldn't make sense having it as a complement. But within an already strained budget, the UK would have to pay for test & development and the supply chain of another asset. One that in the end won't do much to restore fixed wing carrier capacity earlier.
 

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Naval Today said:
On January 21, 2015, the Bipartisan Virginia delegation wrote a letter to Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel expressing their continued support for the 11 aircraft carrier fleet in advance of the release of the President’s Fiscal Year 2016 budget proposal.

The Virginia delegation, consisting of U.S. Senators Tim Kaine and Mark Warner and U.S. Representatives Bob Goodlatte, Bobby Scott, Randy Forbes, Rob Wittman, Gerry Connolly, Morgan Griffith, Robert Hurt, Scott Rigell, Dave Brat, Don Beyer, and Barbara Comstock, wrote:

"The deployment of our carrier fleet to numerous conflict zones across the globe last year further demonstrates why we must continue to invest in this critical capability to ensure future military capacity and flexibility."

In making the case for maintaining the 11 aircraft carrier fleet beyond 2015, Virginia delegation members cited the ability of aircraft carriers to respond rapidly throughout the world to military and humanitarian crises.

Delegation members concluded by noting the uncertainty and budgetary constraints imposed by sequestration, and committed to working tirelessly in a bipartisan manner to reduce its harmful impacts.
 

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I hope he does not make such a decision based on a "recent poll." Polls can be worded, engineered, and skewed to say pretty much whatever the administrator of the poll wants it to say.
As do I, but he will deliver them, mark my word, this poll is designed to push/give Hollande cover for capitulating to the Russians, kind of like shooting yourself in the foot, and Putin will very likely move them to GUESS Where? I really hope I'm wrong, I do, but I can read the tea leaves, and I know that BHO would deliver them if he were in that position, along with some excuse?
 

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Thai Chakri Naruebet the more small CV in the world, a variant of Spanish Principe de Asturias now retired, don' t get aircrafts carry in general the 6 SH-70B armed with Penguin and Torp ( Thai Navy get also 6 Super Lynx used by FFG and OPV ) can be also used to carry 450 troops or do humanitarian missions eventualy according some rumors a Royal yacht :)

Thai Navy had buy to Spain 7 AV-8A and 2 TAV-8A stocked since long time.

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strehl

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A couple of videos about the JMSDF carrier ("destroyer helicopter") 181. Everythings in Japanese but the videos are still interesting to watch. There is a History Channel icon at the top right so I am wondering if History Channel has a Japanese subsidiary serving that market?




 
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