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    https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/articles/marines-headed-to-southern-afghanistan
     
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    That's a daft remark.:eek:
    US lacks the capability to solve Afghanistan's problems, just as every other outside actor. Russia and Iran as well as other nearby countries have more interest in ending the Afghan "troubles" than US.
     
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    Site of GBU-43/B (MOAB), Nangarhar, Afghanistan

    Footage provided by Afghan Local Police, from the site where the U.S. Forces - Afghanistan conducted a strike against an ISIS-K complex in Achin District, Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan on April 14th 2017.

    The strike is part of the U.S. campaign to destroy ISIS-K in Afghanistan in 2017. The munition used, the GBU-43, is designed to destroy caves and tunnels, which ISIS-K had been using to move around the battle field and protect themselves from attacks from Afghan and U.S. Forces.

     
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    http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/blackhawks-airforce-afghanistan-stalemate
     
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    Early on the US gave the Afghans Mi17 Hips From Russia. The Reasons were many the filled a number of missions, Transport, CAS, Utility. But as we all know the Relations between the US and Russia have been breaking down, and as time as gone by Paying the Russians for new helicopters for the Afghans has become more and more unpopular among the powers that be.
    moving to the UH60 is... troubled. It's smaller than the Mi17 and leaves CAS missions behind Farther more the Afghans don't have the repair training.
    The Mi17 and Mi35 had a history that could be worked from but there age has worked against them, they have also had issues of not enough crews for machines and needing extensive support to repair and overhaul.
    Replacing the Mi17 with H60 runs into problems first because of size. The H60 is almost exactly half the size in cargo and personnel carry.
    There are other options avalible from the west the S92 Superhawk, the AW101 Merlin, the EC752 Caracal.
    The next one is the aim to field the MD530 Gunship for the Afghans. The MD 530 though is a very light machine intended for fast strikes and powered by very small single engine this has Afghan Pilots and Hot and High issues.
     
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    The ground reality is Afghan regime is effective in areas where Coalition forces are based, while rest of the Afghanistan is still in the hands of either Taliban or local war lords (even Army Generals are also having different belongings & supports of different war lords).

    The solution liaise with different factions (Taliban/War lords) of Afghanistan, not with dummy government. Therefore, if someone wants to sort Afghan problem they need to bring them to the table.
     
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    As you say. This is also industrial policy. The Afghans wouldn't be able to maintain new UH-60's let alone second hand ones. So some US company will be hired to maintain them providing lots of pork and making the Afghan regime even more dependent on US.
    And the old helicopters will have to be replaced by new ones.
    The size of the UH-60 was determined from the requirement that it could be carried by the C-130 a restriction Mi-17 hasn't been handicapped by.
     
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    Actually they already have to Ship the Mi 17's out of country for a number of repairs and overhauls. The Afghans just don't have the infrastructure. You can call it Pork but frankly They already need to pay outside parties to fix their fleet.
    As for shiping Black hawks into Afghanistan is via C17 not C130,
    The Size of the H60 was determined based on a number of reasons including that the Machines they were replacing were the H1 in US service and Doctrine.
    The Russian Mi 8 and Mi 17 were derived from the Russian wants for a larger turbine helicopter to replace the piston powered Mi 4. the Russians had helicopters comparable in size to the H1 and H60 the Mi24 and Mi 2 and As i Said there are western offerings of similar size to the Mi 8. The S92 Super Hawk of the US, The European EC 725, the British/Italian AW101 or they could have gone bigger and gotten CH47s. IF anything I think the choice was availability, They are refurbished US Army UH60A's.
     
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    http://www.upi.com/Defense-News/201.../?utm_source=sec&utm_campaign=sl&utm_medium=2
     
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