Abrams Q&A "with a dash of other stuff"

you just go to a secondary site located almost coax with the main gun. its a manual site so it kind of sucks at longer ranges.

crazyinsane105 said:

Probably the DU rounds fired from the A-10 Warthog can also take it out. The HJ-9 MIGHT be able to, but I am not too sure about that since we haven't seen it in action.

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DU rounds from the A-10 CANNOT penetrate the frontal turret armor of the M1A1, much less the M1A2.

A-10's ammo mix up is 1 tracer/HE followed by 2 APDS-DU I think. Anyway, the APDS-DU from the GAU-8 is rated at roughly 250mm RHA at 1000M (off top of my head), so that's not gonna penetrate. The standard tactics of the A-10 in CAS role is to fire at the top of OPFOR armor, not the front.

however, I think the new French round, which is rated at 1000+mm, can actually penetrate.

penetrate what????...cheese. I would put my life savings on that no FRENCH 30mm round could defeat the front aspect of a M1A1"heavy common"....just funnin I like the French and love their food and lust for their woman.....cheers ute

French 125mm........

The french dont use 125mm's, they use 120's. The French 120mm OFL120F2 DU has a penetration of about 650mm. The m1A2's armor has 960mm front against KE and 1600 against CE. Clearly, the french round wont pass. The most powerful tank gun, the l55, only has 810mm penetration.

That penetration on the L55 is probably with the long rod tungsten round. with a DU round it might be capable of penetrating the frontal amor but i doubt the Leopard 2A6 and M1A2 will be fighting it out anytime soon
onto my question i heard they are developing a new gas turbin engine for the abrams to replace the out of production one curently in use does anyone know the progress on this engine?

sorry, it's 120.

GIAT does manufacture a 120mm round that is said to be rated at greater than 1000mm at 1km. I'm still looking for the data, but it's a bit hard to find.

I can say that about 15 years ago tests were done against the frontal ballistic skirts vs. 150mm naval deck guns.....why? I am not sure...however the deck guns were unable to defeat the heavy skirts of the abrams.

with Dorchester , chobham and various DU upgrades I am not sure if firepower or Armour has the vantage. BUT you have to ask even if the armour is not defeated WILL the crew withstand the impact. I can tell you I saw a T-62 pop a abrams with a 115mm HE....Crew was not killed but it sure did ring their bell and they were unable to return fire. A Bradley then killed the T-62 with 25mm fire.

in disabling the tank or Mission Kill it in a head to head engagement, wouldn't it be wiser to aim the turret than the frontal armour???? I know this isn't a t-72, but wouldn't the damage cause the turret to malfnction which is enough to disable it??

How long can a crew stay in a m1 without exiting it.In example is there a food/water supply inside the tank?