A typical PLAN fleet

Su-27 Pilot

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If the Taiwan conflict does happen, and I think mostly wont but anyway The PLAN's South Sea fleet will do the most attack and naval engagements. PLAN North Sea fleets and the East sea fleets will blockade the Northern sea area while the East sea fleet will blockade the eastern part of Taiwan to seal the netwhich intended to prevent any escapes or foreign invasions.
 

Jeff Head

General
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Su-27 Pilot said:
Including California ?? May be Texas right ?

Interior California (central Valley and northern Sacramento Valley) and certainly many parts of Texas (which is where I was raised) outside of some of the major business districts in Dallas or Houston.

But I am speaking more of Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, Montana. We call that the "intermountain region" and it is very western. Lots of agriculture, cattle ranches, etc. interspersed with a few metropolitian areas which are fairly small. For example, Boise is the largest "big" city for almost four hundred miles and its population is a little ver 150,000.

Salt Lake City (almost 400 miles or 640 km from where I live) is just over a million.
 

Su-27 Pilot

Junior Member
Jeff Head said:
Interior California (central Valley and northern Sacramento Valley) and certainly many parts of Texas (which is where I was raised) outside of some of the major business districts in Dallas or Houston.

But I am speaking more of Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, Montana. We call that the "intermountain region" and it is very western. Lots of agriculture, cattle ranches, etc. interspersed with a few metropolitian areas which are fairly small. For example, Boise is the largest "big" city for almost four hundred miles and its population is a little ver 150,000.

Salt Lake City (almost 400 miles or 640 km from where I live) is just over a million.

Really ? WOW I wish I have one like that. Salt Lake City is all mormons right ??
 

Soyuz

New Member
Jeff Head said:
The Kidd class used to be comparable...but the closest now are the Burkes.
Have those Kidd class destroyers been sold on to taiwan? I remember reading that the U.S were offering them to the Taiwanese as an alternative to supplying them with aegis technology.
 

Jeff Head

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Soyuz said:
Have those Kidd class destroyers been sold on to taiwan? I remember reading that the U.S were offering them to the Taiwanese as an alternative to supplying them with aegis technology.

My understanding is that they have already been sold to the ROC. I am not sure if they were a part of the defense bill that has been tied up in the ROC legislature or not. If not, they may already be over there being prepared for outfitting, training, etc.

The KIDDs were called AEGIS light here in the US because of how strong their all around capabilities were, particularly in AAW with the two twin launchers that were the same as the CGNs at the time In addition, they can be controlled and managed by an AEGIS capable CG or DDG (Tico or Burke) and this has to be part of the reason they will be so valuable to the ROCN.

If the US fights alongside them, then US Aegis vessels can make the most of their capabilities...or if the ROC ultimately obtains AEGIS vessels themselves, and I believe they may well, then they will be able to integrate them into a battle space environment in that fashion themselves.

Even by themselves, IMHO, the KIDDs are probably the most capableDDGs in the region now, short of the Japanese Kongos or US AEGIS vessels.
 

Soyuz

New Member
Did a bit of researching there, and yes the 4 kidd class DDGs have indeed been sold to Taiwan. Apparently the first is due to arrive at the end of the year although there has been some controversy over them as the Taiwanese actually requested ships equiped with AEGIS. Still though they do seem like pretty powerful ships particularly in terms of AA weaponry. (just read there that they were originally built for the Iranians but the events of 1979 meant they ended up in U.S service! :D )
 
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