read this news in the paper on monday. Obviously a derange ex-police hijack a tour bus in Philipines full of tourists. and the inability of the SWAT team in Philipines to handle this kind of situation, resulting in eight hostages killed and one died in hospital yesterday (somewhere around mid-night, as of today's newpaper in SIngapore.). The gist of the report is shown here, Philippines Bus Hostages: At Least 7 Chinese Tourists Killed in Filipino Bus Hostage Shootout - KTLA From reading this news, I am shock that anyone calling themselves special forces could be this untrained... and the way they handle the case left me speechless. From some of the footage shown in news, it seemed that the hostage taker had reveal himself a couple of time... so where is the snipers? Plus the hostage taker could actually witness everything that is happening outside the bus, even when the police are trying to pry open the door... so where is the element of surprise? Any thoughts?