60th Anniversary National Day Parade

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
This is posted over at the CDF blog. Looks like the report of the DF-41's demise may be extremely exaggerated.

5 types of missiles to debut on National Day


BEIJING, Sept. 2 -- China will showcase five new types of domestically designed missiles at the Oct. 1 National Day parade, a leading missile expert from the Second Artillery Force, revealed Tuesday.

A number of advanced weapons of air and sea forces will also be on display, other sources said.

Five types of missiles, including nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles, conventional cruise missiles and medium-range and short-range conventional missiles, will be displayed for the first time at the highly anticipated military parade, said the expert, who asked to remain anonymous and has been closely following the preparations of the strategic force of the People's Liberation Army (PLA).

"These missiles are domestically designed and manufactured and have never been officially reported before," he said, adding that they belong to a second generation of missiles that have already been distributed to the military and are ready for operation.

He declined to disclose the model numbers of the missiles, citing state-secrecy reasons.

"The third generation is still under development and is unlikely to be displayed this time," he said.

Military aficionados have been expecting to see the Dongfeng 41, known as the DF-41, and the CSS-X-10, which is said to be a third-generation, solid-fuel, intercontinental ballistic missile.

While China is a late starter in the milssile development, compared with the US and Russia – countries equipped with fifth-generation missiles and in the process of developing sixth-generation missiles – it has made rapid progress, the expert said.

"Our second generation can match their third and fourth generations, and the third generation under development is comparable to their fifth and sixth generations," he said.

Progress made by the Second Artillery Force in the decade since the last military parade in 1999 will be highlighted at the Oct. 1 event, with marching soldiers and vehicles carrying missiles, three for every type.

"The force has created weaponry and equipment with nuclear and conventional missiles, both solid-fuel and liquid-fuel missiles, with different launching ranges, quick emergency response and precision strikes," he said.

The Second Artillery Force is a strategic unit under the direct command and control of the Central Military Commission, and the core force of China for strategic deterrence, according to a white paper entitled "China's National Defense in 2008," issued earlier this year by the Information Office of the State Council.

One of the force's responsibilities is "conducting nuclear counterattacks," the paper said.

"The statement indicates that the force can survive a nuclear attack before carrying out a counterattack. Any country that attempts to attack China with nuclear weapons must get ready for revenge, even if it has an anti-missile system," the expert said, adding that China's nuclear missiles, though few in number, have a high strike accuracy and formidable power.

A new submarine-launched ballistic missile, Julang 2, also known as JL-2 and CSS-NX-4, is also highly anticipated by fans of military hardware to make an appearance at the parade. It is said to have a maximum range of 8,000 kilometers and be designed to be installed onboard current and next-generation Chinese nuclear-powered submarines.

Li Jie, a naval expert, didn't exclude the possibility of Julang-2's appearance on Oct. 1. Li told the Global Times that the navy would showcase some types of ship-to-ship missile, ship-to-air missile and multiple rocket launchers at the parade.

"Maybe two to three of them will be unveiled for the first time," Li said. "The new weapons will help enhance the navy's combat capability in any future sea war."

Dai Xu, an air force colonel and military strategist, told the Global Times that a large part of the weaponry and equipment of the air force would be showcased at the parade, including third-generation warplanes, land-to-air missiles and sophisticated radar equipment.

"The backbone warplanes of the major military powers in the world are third generation. The qualities of some of our warplanes are at a level that is advanced in terms of the rest of the world," Dai said.

Li Daguang, a senior military expert at the PLA University of National Defense, emphasized that the military parade is not for saber rattling but aims to promote national pride, confidence and awareness of national defense.

"Some countries, observing China's parade with colored glasses, show off their weapons around the world on the battlefield instead," Li said.

Li Jie argued that the parade can reflect the current situation and tendency of China's military weaponry, as well as a way of showing China's military openness and transparency, and how it is aligned with international military standards.

According to the arrangement, President Hu Jintao will offer a keynote address at the huge celebration at Tian'anmen Square on Oct. 1, followed by the military parade and a mass pageant involving 200,000 people, 60 floats and a fireworks display.
 

pla101prc

Senior Member
DF-41 is cancelled, but i heard there is a improved version of DF-31 with a longer range and prolly multiple warheads...since the best is shown last you better not miss the end of the show lol
 

Maggern

Junior Member
I was suprised that JL-2 was mentioned here. The article says the missiles displayed are operational and distributed to military units. I was under the impression that they're still having problems with JL-2?
 

zayid

New Member
Registered Member
Using your GoogleEerth and goto lat 39.79985N lon 116.710396E,everything is there
14xDF31(A)s 19xDF-25s 16xDF-15....
 

kroko

Senior Member
I was suprised that JL-2 was mentioned here. The article says the missiles displayed are operational and distributed to military units. I was under the impression that they're still having problems with JL-2?

yea, i think there are some problems with this article. In addition to what you said, DF-41 is supposed cancelled, and no mention was made of the DF-31a, the supposed true next generation chinese ICBM.

How credible is this source?
 
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Vlad Plasmius

Junior Member
Pictures from the AP and AFP looks like PLZ-05 and T-99:

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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
^ Type 96G. I was hoping not to see white walls this time. Hope they show the new one we've only seen few and bad angle pics of.

Military vehicles parade through Beijing

BEIJING, Sept 6 (AFP) Sep 06, 2009
Hundreds of military vehicles, including tanks and missile carriers, rolled down one of Beijing's main streets Sunday to rehearse a parade marking the 60th anniversary of the nation's founding.
Tanks and military trucks, some carrying long missiles, followed one another down Chang'an Jie, the street that crosses the heart of Beijing, towards Tiananmen Square, an AFP reporter witnessed.

China is planning a parade, song and dance performances, and fireworks on October 1 to mark the day when revolutionary leader Mao Zedong proclaimed the founding of Communist China in 1949 at Tiananmen Square.

Beams from powerful spotlights spun in the sky over the square on Sunday as traffic around the city centre ground to a halt and thousands of onlookers watched from a distance the vehicles progressing at snail's pace.

The rehearsal began early Sunday evening and was expected to last much of the night.

China is due to unveil a range of previously unseen missiles during the National Day parade, including intercontinental ballistic missiles.

In the past several weeks, China has deployed thousands of extra police to monitor people and vehicles entering and leaving the city.

State media reports have said the security measures have been toughened in part due to riots in July in China's far western Xinjiang region by Muslim Uighurs, which the government said left nearly 200 people dead.

China typically cracks down on politically sensitive anniversaries to prevent any action by groups critical of the Communist Party's iron-fisted rule such as dissident groups and restive minorities including Uighurs and Tibetans.





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pla101prc

Senior Member
I was suprised that JL-2 was mentioned here. The article says the missiles displayed are operational and distributed to military units. I was under the impression that they're still having problems with JL-2?

its possible, back in 99 DF-31 was also displayed before it became operational. reason being the leader wants to showcase the newest weaponry to demonstrate its leadership over the military as well as deterring and confuse other nuclear power. Hu Jintao is guaranteed to do the same, if DF-31 was the best that Jiang Zemin displayed, it is almost certain that Hu will reveal something better, unless the PLA has nothing better to offer.

i read up there that the Second Artillery is gonna display five types of missiles, so DF-15, 21, 31, prolly 4 and JL-2. or they wont have DF-4 and replace it with something like a new type of cruise missile or something. cuz we have no evidence whether there is an on-going cruise missile project, it'd be great if they can confirm that. being a non-strategic weapon, it shouldnt be that big a deal that PLA can show Taiwan that ballistic missiles arent the only threat they have to worry about.
 
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kroko

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"The third generation is still under development and is unlikely to be displayed this time," he said.

Military aficionados have been expecting to see the Dongfeng 41, known as the DF-41, and the CSS-X-10, which is said to be a third-generation, solid-fuel, intercontinental ballistic missile.

i guess we can forget about DF-41 being in the parade, if it exists at all.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Posted on CDF blog.

DH-10 LACM.

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Update

CDF Blog posted a list of what's was supposedly seen at rehearsals.

Vehicle Squadron No. 01 ZTZ 99 MBT
Vehicle Squadron No. 02 ZTZ 96G MBT
Vehicle Squadron No. 03 ZTS 04 AAAV (Army)
Vehicle Squadron No. 04 ZBD97 IFV
Vehicle Squadron No. 05 ZTS 04 AAAV (Marine)
Vehicle Squadron No. 06 New 8x8 Wheeled IFV
Vehicle Squadron No. 07 ZDB03 Airborne IFV (Airforce)
Vehicle Squadron No. 08 ZSL 92 Anti-riot APC (PAP)
Vehicle Squadron No. 09 PLZ 04 155mm SPH
Vehicle Squadron No. 10 New 122mm SPH
Vehicle Squadron No. 11 PLL05 1200mm SP Gun-Mortar
Vehicle Squadron No. 12 PTL02 100mm SPA
Vehicle Squadron No. 13 PHL03 300mm MRL
Vehicle Squadron No. 14 HJ-9 ATGM
Vehicle Squadron No. 15 PGZ95 SPAAA
Vehicle Squadron No. 16 HQ-7 SP-SAM
Vehicle Squadron No. 17 YJ-91 ASM display-model (Navy)
Vehicle Squadron No. 18 YJ-83 ASM display-model (Navy)
Vehicle Squadron No. 19 YJ-62 ASM (Navy)
Vehicle Squadron No. 20 HQ-9 SAM (Air force)
Vehicle Squadron No. 21 HQ-12 SAM (Air force)
Vehicle Squadron No. 22 ECM (Air force)
Vehicle Squadron No. 23 UAV
Vehicle Squadron No. 24 Communication
Vehicle Squadron No. 25 Joint Logistic (Medical, Food, Water, OPL, and Bridging)
Vehicle Squadron No. 26 DF-15 Mod
Vehicle Squadron No. 27 DF-11 Mod
Vehicle Squadron No. 28 DH-10 LACM
Vehicle Squadron No. 29 DF-21C
Vehicle Squadron No. 30 DF- 41

Here's some of the pics.

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