29 April 1975..Operation Frequent Wind

bd popeye

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I do not intend to start a political debate over the Vietnam War. This thread will focus on Operation Frequent Wind. I will be happy to answer any questions. No political debate!!!!

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Operation Frequent Wind was the evacuation of Americans, Vietnamese and third country nationals by helicopter from South Vietnam on 29 April 1975.

1,373 U.S. citizens and 5,595 Vietnamese and third country nationals were evacuated by USMC, USAF and Air America helicopters to U.S. Navy ships off-shore in an approximately 24-hour period on April 29-30, 1975, immediately preceding the fall of Saigon.

I, Big Daddy Popeye was there..31 years ago. I was stationed onboard the USS Hancock CVA-19. An old WWll Essex class CV.

This is what occuried on the flight deck of the USS Hancock CVA-19 during Operation Frequent Wind. I was assigned to "G" Division flight deck crew. "G" division is comprised of Aviation Ordanceman. We handle Aviation ammo. This story is written as best as I can remember...

29 April 1975 of that day my friend one Mr Jimmy Bishop said..""Was that ever one of the sadist days of my life.. Remember seeing{on Tv}
them shove UH-1B's over the side of one of the carriers because they
were running out of room to operate.I was having a cold brewski at
this little Irish Pub named McGoo's...seems like yesterday""

About 0530 on board the USS Hancock CVA-19 on 29 April 1975 AO2 Harry Depaw awoke me and told me it's time to get to work. Oh joy,oh joy!! Another day of loading .50 cal ammo and waiting. It had been more than 10 days since we left Singapore. All old Hanna was doing was cutting doughnuts in the Tonkin Gulf and waiting for Saigon to fall.

Meanwhile in Saigon US Ambassador Martin knew the end was near.The North Vietnamese forces were getting closer to Saigon. It was just a matter of time before he would have to tell Washington to order the evacuation of Saigon. That occurred at 1000 that morning when he called Sec. Of state Henry Kessinger..

Deep Purple !! Deep Purple!! Was called away on the USS Hancock CVA-19 at about 1100. ..Operation Frequent wind was under way! Fightin' Hanna would answer the call one more time.

My job was to load up the USMC helos with .50 cal ammo. Then I was to man the deck edge bomb elevator forward of the island and place evacuee luggage on it after it had been inspected. Well WE all did more than that that day.

The sky was soon filled with USMC helos, some filled with "Grunt" Marines to secure & establish landing zones in designated areas "in country". I will not ever forget the sight of all those ships..48..and all those helos.

Jimmy mentioned seeing helo's being pushed overboard. That was on the USS Hancock CVA-19 and the USS Midway CVA-41. We had to push 19 of the Republic of South Vietnam(RVN) helo's overboard. 2 Chinook's and 17 Huey's. They were clogging the deck. Plus they had no landing gear{wheels}. Just skids. When the first RVN Huey's landed they were dragged to the bow and spotted there. As more and more helos arrived it became apparent that we could not keep the RVN helos and recover our own USMC helos. So when a RVN CH-47 Chinook landed with its non-folding blades we pushed it off the fantail. It ripped the safety netting off the round down on the fantail. It made a big splash when it hit the water. That helo's starboard engine was on fire. When that helo was circling ole Hanna' there was a 50 cal machine gun that was manned and ready pointing out of the starboard forward door. Smoke was bellowing out of that starboard engine. Capt. "Field Day" Fred Fellows called the ship to GQ over that.

I once read another internet account that claimed that these helos were salvaged first for parts. This is not true. We did not have the time. We simply pushed many of the RVN helos into the Tonkin Gulf. Period. Another account claims a Cessna landed on the Hancock. Not true. The Cessna actually landed on the USS Midway CVA-41. I know. I was on that flight deck for 29 straight hours. Click the link below for pic of the Evacuation on the Midway.

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But when the nice pretty silver and blue Air America Huey's started coming aboard they were dragged to the bow and spotted there. A lot of those Air America pilots were drunk. It is a wonder that none of their helos crashed. We could not souvenir hunt in those birds like we did the RVN helos that we did keep.

When the RVN officers & families & Civilians etc starting really arriving in droves. Many were ARMED. You name it.. they had it!! A lot of 45's,38's,9mm,22's.. sawed offed Remington shot guns. I saw a so sweet .357 Colt Python with a six in barrel. I saw a lot Of knives. The Jar heads..OOPPSS I mean the Marines were in charge of searching the evacuees. They had this box to put the weapons in. Well you know Marines & sailors. Some marine "Confiscated" that Colt Python. Most of the weapons were thrown overboard.{Sic} I did not get any weapons because I was being stationed in Cubi Pt. And did not want to take a chance on getting busted. Most of the RVN military,civilians and American evacuees had large sum of cash and gold. After the evacuees were searched they were sent down to the Hangar deck were they were deloused and quartered. Some were placed in vacated berthing spaces.

Later that evening after the dust had settled a USMC CH-46 flying plane guard crashed just off the port side of the Hancock. Two crewman were lost. A Memorial service was held for the lost crewman on our way back to Subic.

All in all we wound up with over 2000 evacuees on the Hancock. One child was born to a Vietnamese woman on the Hancock. What was he named? John Hancock...

Big Daddy Popeye USN/retired USS Hancock CVA-19 AUG'74 'til Aug '75
 

bd popeye

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USMC CH-53 of HMH 463 on the Hancock 29 April 1975 unloading evacuees.
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More refugees on the USS Midway CVA-41
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Midways flight deck crowded with USAF and USMC CH-53 ready to launch.
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Republic of S. Vietnam "Huey" being pushed over the side on the USS Hancock.
We pushed 17 Hueys and 2 CH-47 "Chinooks" over the side because there was not enough room on the flight deck.

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Roger604

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Why "Operation Frequent Wind"? It seems like an odd name. My first impression was this is what happens when you eat a lot of beans.
 

isthvan

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It is f...... horrible to see all that Huey`s pushed to Sea. Popeye wasn`t "Operation Frequent Wind" Tomcat`s first combat mision?If I remember correctly F-14s provided air cover during evacuation?
 
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bd popeye

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Thank you fellows for your intrest in History.

Why "Operation Frequent Wind"? It seems like an odd name. My first impression was this is what happens when you eat a lot of beans.

LOL!:) Actually the original name of the operation was "TALON VICE." However, that name had been compromised by it's publication, in Newsweek Magazine about 7-10 days prior to the operation. I guess that's what is know as a news leak from "unknown sources"..:( .

It is f...... horrible to see all that Huey`s pushed to Sea. Popeye wasn`t "Operation Frequent Wind" Tomcat`s first combat mision?If I remember correctly F-14s provided air cover during evacuation?

This is a rare pic! This is a pic of Air America(CIA) helos that were recovered from Vietnam on the helo flight line in NAS Cubi Pt. Philippines. I was stationed in Cubi from 8-'75 til 9-'77. These helos stayed on the helo flight line until early '76 if memory serves me correctly. Note the silver and blue paint scheme.
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We had to shove those ARVN Hueys over the side. We had to keep enough deck space to recover our USMC helos after the operation. Plus they did not have wheels..just skids and they were tearing up the deck. We did save quite a few and packed them on board. Mostly Air America Huey's....As for the Tomcat.... Yes the flew Captive Air Patrol over the massive battle group assembled in the South China Sea. They were assigned to VF-1 and VF-2 as part of CVW-14 on board the USS Enterprise CVN-65
 
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bd popeye

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Best pic of an Air America helo I can find. We were not permitted to push these helos into the Tonkin Gulf. The paint scheme was quite striking. Many of the Air America pilots were drunk or stoned when they landed on the Hancock. No kidding. But what could ya' do? They were the friggin' CIA. This link will give you much info on the real "Air America".

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Baibar of Jalat

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Hi i am gonna be very serious, my question is designed to explore the feelings of the average American military personal. I hope it is not too emotional.

How did it make you and your colleagues feel when you relized you left many tens of thousands behind and plus the many left behind would presumably suffer reprisals due to their links with Americans and South Vietnam's government?
 

bd popeye

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Biabar, To be honest with you it did not effect me personally at all. I never served "in country" with any ARVN forces. I was always on a ship. I did feel bad for those left behind that were strong allies of the US. No telling what sort of treatment they faced from the N. Vietnamese. I don't carry around hurt feelings etc for very long. Just hours in fact. Get over it I say.

But there are those Americans that are still hurt by the whole situation. Very hurt. They need to get over it. That was over 30 years ago. Period. That's my opinion without getting political.

And...let's not get political in this thread....OK!?
 

Finn McCool

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Cool pics Popeye. Were you on any of the choppers? That went in?

The evacuation was very successful considering the circumstanes. Basically, you couldn't evacuate all of South Vietnam, but you guys still did really well, getting all of the Americans out of there and getting TONS (the entire population of Westminster, California.) of Vietnamese out of there too. Good job.
 

bd popeye

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Thanks for you kind comments about the USN & USMC team!!

Finn, I was assigned to ships company on the Hancock. I worked on the flight deck. I loved it...All the aircrew was assigned to the USMC helo squadrons on board. About three weeks before the evac I did get to fly in a CH-53 to USAF base Utapo, Thialand to pic up the mail. We had a blast there.. Major party dude..

The Marines were susposed to let us fire their 50cal machine guns. They never did.:( Here is a pic of the door gunners/rescue crewman of HMH-463 lining up to get ammo..I was standing behind the photog when this pic was snapped..Many of those Marines were battle harden vets of the Vietnam war. "They be some bad Mo' Fo's"!!!!...
 
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